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Old August 19, 2013   #16
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http://www.agricoltura.regione.campa.../piennolo.html
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It is a DOP because of the volcanic soil in the area. In Italy, this is the only place it can be grown and officially be Piennolo. Best come here and try it. !!!
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Old August 19, 2013   #17
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clarityMrBig46;372075]I know, that Principe Borghese will be most delicious tomato at no time. But I am taking interest to store them to the spring of next year (as a piennolo).
Lava of Vesuvio is rich in silicon and potassium. This is the way, which I want to go. I add
potassium.
I plant principe Borghese dissimilar concepts:
-as an indeterminante tomato with the prunning (one plant)
-as a determinante tomato in the bed (six plants)
-as a determinante tomato in the container
-as a determinante tomato in the bad from the direct growing 26.5.2013
Because I didn´t eat this tomato this year still, I degusted its on the garden today. I think, that was better than last year.
I am testing tomato Ramallet too. Spanish variant of Piennolo planted in Mallorca ( lava too).
This is my pleasure.
Vladimír[/QUOTE]

Vladimir,
You're way ahead of me. I too am growing Principe Borghese with the idea of long storage and I'm planning to try Ramellet (from Mallorca) next season. I'm fascinated to learn how you get on this year.
I have a book, Bread and Oil (Pa amb Oli) by Tomas Graves in which he describes Mallorcan long storage tomatoes as part of the bread and oil food ritual/culture. He's not a horticulturalist but what he says may be of use. I'm paraphrasing;
There are 2 distinct varieties sold in Mallorca as Ramellet; de Ferro which is irrigated and may be as productive as any "conventional" variety and "true" Ramellet which is dry farmed, intercropped between melons in 6 localities around St Joan. Apparently the true Ramellet will keep until may of the following year, de Ferro only until January.
secondly, the fruit should not be washed as this will destroy it's keeping qualities.
Also, fruits last much longer if they're not touching. However , tightly bunched fruits sell more readily in markets. People keeping fruits for their own consumption pick the bunches (ramellets) and hang them over wires stretched across the roof beams of an outbuilding.

Maybe these snippets of information will help.

Apologies recruiterg for interrupting your most interesting thread. It's a great subject that I'm watching for enlightenment!

Jeremy

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Old August 21, 2013   #18
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Jeremy, I like to find to someone who has interest to plant Piennolo ( Ramallet) in our geographical widthes. It is no interest of Czech cultivators of tomatoes.
I hope that we will reciprocate our practices in the future.
From your captivate me: „Also, fruits last much longer if they're not touching. However , tightly bunched fruits sell more readily in markets.“
I shall bow clusters of Principe Borghese each separately.
A nice day Vladimír

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Old August 23, 2013   #19
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Old August 26, 2013   #20
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Looks great Vladimir... Happy drying!
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