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Old January 4, 2014   #1
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I'm looking for fish fertilizer.
The ones I find in uk-webshops have NPK: 5-1-1 or 5-3-4...while american fish fertilizer has npk: 2-4-1.
Where does this difference comes from?
Which one is the best for tomatoes and peppers?

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Old January 4, 2014   #2
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check out post number 7

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=22135
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this is what i wanted you to see so you know why the N-P-K is diff in Europe and USA

The Biogrow in the USA and the Biogrow in Europe are exactly the same. The law in the USA requires us to write on the label the direct NPK levels that the roots take up, in Europe the law requires we write the total of NPK in the bottle. The products are exactly the same every were around the world. They are all produced by hand and with love at our production facility in Groningen J
Thanks for your kind words, and greetingzz to your friends in AmericaJ
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Old January 5, 2014   #4
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Interesting.
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Unless you are growing in a sterile medium I would not worry about phosphorus as the mycorrhiza will make any phosphorous in the growing medium available to the plant. Ami
Is that true?

I'm going to buy Bio-Bloom and Fish-mix
I would think Bio-Bloom is good for peppers once they start making fruit.
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Order this and use to inoculate your plants on plant out. They ship internationally as we have a member from Finland that ordered it no problem.

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http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/...uble-1-oz.html
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I'm looking for fish fertilizer.
The ones I find in uk-webshops have NPK: 5-1-1 or 5-3-4...while american fish fertilizer has npk: 2-4-1.
Where does this difference comes from?
Which one is the best for tomatoes and peppers?
Fish fertilizer is primarly a source of Nitrogen - typically a liquid with NPK of 5-1-1. The products you mention with NPK 5-3-4 and 2-4-1 have been fortified with other nutirents.
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You should try to get Fish Hydrolsayte if you can. It takes much less for the same effect and is also beneficial for the microorganism in your soil. It does cost more but you use less of it. They usually have it at hydroponics stores.
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I can't find hydrolized fish...only Neptune's Harvest and that's too expensive. (live in Belgium...)
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I recommend a fishing pole and line with a hook on the end. Fillet the fish you catch and enjoy. The bones guts and head bury about a foot deep under whatever you want to grow.

When I was a kid, we used to come home with stringers of small crappie and bluegills, they made the best eating AND the best fertilizer!
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I recommend a fishing pole and line with a hook on the end. Fillet the fish you catch and enjoy. The bones guts and head bury about a foot deep under whatever you want to grow.

When I was a kid, we used to come home with stringers of small crappie and bluegills, they made the best eating AND the best fertilizer!

Still a common practice with Elders and some peoples on the reservation here. It really does feed the plants wonderfully. Some even combine pulverized crawdad with the fish for a high chitin food source to the plants.

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There is not much fish in the rivers here.

I did burry stuff(dead animalsn ) in the garden but my dog finds them...no matter how deep I burry them.
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If you want to garden naturally, then goat manure is probably available in your area and a good choice for tomatoes.
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How about starting a worm farm? It extremely easy to do and worm casting is one of the best if not best organic fertilizer.
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How about starting a worm farm? It extremely easy to do and worm casting is one of the best if not best organic fertilizer.
For worm castings, the output all depends on the input; i.e., what you feed them. A colleague of mine collects boxes of produce scraps from 2 vendors at a local farmers market.

Studies by agricultural extension personnel here in CA have shown that worm castings are best applied either (a) in a soil mix or (b) underneath a layer of mulch. When they are applied directly on the soil with no mulch cover, the plant response was less favorable than with mulch alone.
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Make sure you get a hydrolyzate not emulsion, processed at low temperature. Hormones, enzymes, amino acids, vitamins and protiens are harmed with high heat. Look for a high oil content. The best preservative is food grade phosphoric acid. Alternatives include, industrial phosphoric acid and sulfuric acid. Make sure the fish source is from the ocean not fresh water, Ocean fish contain more oils and trace minerals with low or no heavy metals. Ascophyllum nodosum is widely regarded as the best kelp source. The same type of cold processing is important to not denature all the benefits. Lastly, it should be filtered through a 150 mesh filter to keep it from clogging sprayers.
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