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Old February 19, 2014   #16
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That's true about the nicotinoid Imidacloprid where used in seed coatings (e.g., corn). For awhile the Asian Citrus Psyllid control program was requiring growers and nurseries to apply it to Citrus (myself included). Now we have choices. The nicotinoid in Assail is Acetamiprid - a much friendlier approach when it comes to bees, and a more effective on leaf penetration for leaf miners.

Putting all nicotinoids in the same impact category is like saying all pyrethroids are the same. In reality, some are nasty that I'd never use in my garden but a few of them are part of my IPM program.
It seems like my base of knowledge has lapsed in this area. And since there are now options, I will have to dig more research papers up and definitely reevaluate my stance on the the use of Nicotinoid compuonds as part of my own IPM program. Granted I'm trying to use the minimal amount of chemical controls possible. This is a good reminder that everything must be evaluated on an individual basis. Thanks Hermitanfor this poignant reminder.
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My neighborhood is patrolled by battalions of Blue Jays, Mockingbirds, Orioles, and Phoebes. The grasshoppers don't stand a chance and are simply not seen.
I have a very large cat, "Kitty" that my kids call a panther. The good news is rats are now a nonissue. The bad news is, birds pretty much just circle or stay up on the power lines.
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The deer are eating mine as fast as they can grow I just about give up.

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Old February 20, 2014   #19
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the big grasshoppers here in central florida are probably the Lubber. These are some tough, prolific critters. Nothing seems to eat them and they laugh at any insecticide. A well placed brick works. I also use scissors. Gross but effective.
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the big grasshoppers here in central florida are probably the Lubber. These are some tough, prolific critters. Nothing seems to eat them and they laugh at any insecticide. A well placed brick works. I also use scissors. Gross but effective.
Do they eat your Namwah banana leaves?
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Do they eat your Namwah banana leaves?
I see them on the bananas often but not much damage. They favor the crinum lilies.
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The lubbers are great fishing bait when they hit the water,great for the larger snook(land locked or canal areas).Not being offensive,is it a coincidence that you screen name is the same as a banana cultivar?
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We have a big jumbo grass hopper migration here in parts of Texas every year.
One year on FM 580 from San Saba Texas to Bend Texas.
It is very curvy with blind hills on top of curves.

I was going home on this road and in a dip in the middle of two blind curves there was a family of about 7 immigrant workers in the middle of the road gathering grass hoppers.

They must have heard me coming and just as I topped the hill and saw them they all jumped out of the way.
There was no way I could have stopped.

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The lubbers are great fishing bait when they hit the water,great for the larger snook(land locked or canal areas).Not being offensive,is it a coincidence that you screen name is the same as a banana cultivar?
Namwah is one of the bananas i grow. I was having trouble coming up with a name that was not taken and it was the first name that was accepted.

I have not tried using the lubbers for bait but i have tossed a few in the pond. Not much action on them and the few times bass hit them, they were quickly spit out. I think they have a very offensive spittle.
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