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Old May 1, 2014   #1
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Default Bluegills for fertilizer?

Our pond is badly overstocked with bluegill to the point all we catch is 2 to 3 inch fish. The bass and catfish are evidently not eating enough. I started using live traps to catch them and am composting about 35 fish a day.

We've all read about the Indians supposedly using fish for fertilizer. Has anyone else done this? Should I keep a separate compost pile or just mix them in with everything else?
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I would be fearful of attracting skunks and raccoons and maybe rats to the compost pile. Composting along with other organics like vegetable matter probably be quite a compost pile. Maybe a little stinky though. From what I understand it is best to put the fish parts into the core of a compost pile that is already up to temperature and that will eliminate most of the odor and the pest attraction.

All told, fish compost is a good source of nitrogen if composted correctly. Undercooked fish will release a lot of ammonia into the pile, so be sure your pile is plenty hot.
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The first year I had my greenhouse, I used a horse trough of bluegill for my water. Plants love fish water. That is probably the best use for live fish.
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Paul, The main compost pile consists of truckloads of fresh horse manure and one dump truck load of brewers whey. (sp) so rotten fish would actually be an improvement. ha. For years I've been praying for a decent source of manure for our clay,rock soil. Now I have too much and will be adding an average of a truckload a week from a horse stable. That's where I'll be burying the fish. It should be plenty hot.

I keep the house compost in a separate pile. Maybe I should core a few fish into this pile to add nitrogen to the brew. This bin is a concrete sheep stock tank about 5 ft in diameter
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I would just toss them in the compost whole, critters or not
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My parents, who came from the "old country" Ukraine to be exact, dug a hole, buried them and planted right on top. They did it there, being Ukraine, and they did it here, being Cleveland. We never had a problem with varmints, cat, dogs or enything else digging them up.

I don't follow the same practice because I don't fish.
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I put the straight in the garden and the compost pile , only had a digger once in the compost pile
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OK, I'll plant some under the peppers as I plant them and see if the peppers taste fishy or not. Actually it may be a good time to do a test. I'll mark some plants with the fish underneath and keep track on how they do. The soil in each container is exactly the same and all watered with drip irrigation so should have good control on results. I'll use a couple containers for tomatoes doing the same.

neoguy do you want me to mail you some fish?

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LOL, thanks for the offer but I'll pass, I don't think the postal carrier would be too happy.

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I have used bluegill heads and I have used shad whole. Just bury them deep enough..about a foot or so...and fill the hole back in....then plant away. It works great.
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I have used bluegill heads and I have used shad whole. Just bury them deep enough..about a foot or so...and fill the hole back in....then plant away. It works great.
I made fish emulsion last year using about 5 bluegill. I put the fish, compost, water, and a jar of black molasis in a 5 gallon bucket with a vent hole drilled in the lid. I put a screen over the bucket before putting the lid on to keep bugs out, and buried 1/2 of the bucket in the garden to keep the critters from knocking it over and let it set a couple months. When it was done I strained it into milk cartons. I got about 1&1/2 gallons. The stuff doesn't smell the best but everything I use it on loves it. It works every bit as good as the store bought emulsion for the price of the molasis.

I also bury bluegill under my tomato, cucumbers, and pepper plants.:
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I put a catfish carcass in the pot on the left earlier this spring after a fishing trip. Wasn't planning on planting anything in it, just figured I could use the soil next year. I said what the heck and threw a few pole bean seeds in there just to see what happened.

As you can see.. It's noticeably greener. Will see how it produces compared to the others beside it.
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I can't believe that nobody has suggested a BASS O'MATIC. Mmmm GOOD.
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No need for a separate kitchen appliance when my wife's blender works just fine. Counter space is limited.
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i used to put all my fish carcases in a deep hole under the plants. 10lb bluefish were great. always dug at least two feet then put dirt, lime and more dirt. i think the lime helps with keeping the smell down for critters and my soil needs lime anyway.
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