Independence Day tomato

zeroma · June 10, 2015

Who has tried Independence Day? We have started a bunch of them but need information on it as to taste, yield, the same stuff Tatiana lists in her data base. It isn't there for me to check for myself.

I have found out that it is early 55 day, Orange-Red, Determinate, small, 2 1/2 inches around, and sweet.

What leaf type, so far they look like a more wispy regular leaf to me. Are they juicy or meaty? any help appreciated.

Zeroma

CamuMahubah · June 14, 2015

I remember reading somewhere that Independence Day was the same as Fourth of July.

Grew 4th last year and it was excellent flavor but I never made it into the house with them as they tasted too good and were the earliest tomato in the garden.

Ate them right off the vine. They tasted great when the sun warmed them they were almost like eating hot juicy tomato soup with out any milk.

Gardeneer · June 14, 2015

I have read a lot about them. THEY ( 4th O July and Indep. Day) ARE NOT THE SAME.

Even I have read conflicting reviews of what is sold as "Fourth O July". Some reported as Indet and other(s) determinant.
Worst yet is their claimed erlyness.
I started some from seeds, planted out around April 20th. Now approaching June 20th ( almost 60 days) it has just few flowers. Now consider the seeds pack claimin it has a DTM of 49.

I already pulled and trashed couple plants and kept just one.

I have beef steaks that should beat the FoJ all the way to the bank.
YMMV

**carolyn137** · June 14, 2015

For those who would like to know if 4th of July and Independence Day are the same varieties, here's a thread about that from here at Tville;

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=31461

That should help, hopefully.

Carolyn

kygreg · June 14, 2015

Have grown 4th of July in past and did not have ripe fruit until mid July; was not the first. I got my first ripe ones this year on June 10th which is a record early date for me. The variety is Big Beef.

MikeInCypress · June 14, 2015

The Burpee 4th of July I grew from seed this year was early and has been producing for over six weeks. The size is a little smaller than what I expected 1-1/2 - 2" diameter. Taste is way above average and the yield is high. I can them and freeze them whole. The Independence Day from Chef Jeff was not as early (but it is in semi shade) but the fruit are 2-1/2" to 3" in diameter. For that size fruit I like Early girl and any number of the New Dwarfs.

MikeInCypress

joseph · June 14, 2015

In my garden, 4th of July fell into the do-not-grow-again category. It produced fruit closer to mid-august. Didn't even come close to living up to it's name.

zeroma · June 14, 2015

Okay then, after reading all the linked threads, I'm going to have to reprint my labels. I didn't have the Livingston package when I asked this question.

I'm going to have to change that it is a potato leaf and determinate.

June 10, 2015	#1
zeroma Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 637	Independence Day tomato Who has tried Independence Day? We have started a bunch of them but need information on it as to taste, yield, the same stuff Tatiana lists in her data base. It isn't there for me to check for myself. I have found out that it is early 55 day, Orange-Red, Determinate, small, 2 1/2 inches around, and sweet. What leaf type, so far they look like a more wispy regular leaf to me. Are they juicy or meaty? any help appreciated. Zeroma

June 14, 2015	#4
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	For those who would like to know if 4th of July and Independence Day are the same varieties, here's a thread about that from here at Tville; http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=31461 That should help, hopefully. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

June 14, 2015	#6
MikeInCypress Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 963	The Burpee 4th of July I grew from seed this year was early and has been producing for over six weeks. The size is a little smaller than what I expected 1-1/2 - 2" diameter. Taste is way above average and the yield is high. I can them and freeze them whole. The Independence Day from Chef Jeff was not as early (but it is in semi shade) but the fruit are 2-1/2" to 3" in diameter. For that size fruit I like Early girl and any number of the New Dwarfs. MikeInCypress __________________ "Growing older, not up"

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June 14, 2015	#2
CamuMahubah Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Alliance Nebraska Posts: 169	I remember reading somewhere that Independence Day was the same as Fourth of July. Grew 4th last year and it was excellent flavor but I never made it into the house with them as they tasted too good and were the earliest tomato in the garden. Ate them right off the vine. They tasted great when the sun warmed them they were almost like eating hot juicy tomato soup with out any milk.

June 14, 2015	#3
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	I have read a lot about them. THEY ( 4th O July and Indep. Day) ARE NOT THE SAME. Even I have read conflicting reviews of what is sold as "Fourth O July". Some reported as Indet and other(s) determinant. Worst yet is their claimed erlyness. I started some from seeds, planted out around April 20th. Now approaching June 20th ( almost 60 days) it has just few flowers. Now consider the seeds pack claimin it has a DTM of 49. I already pulled and trashed couple plants and kept just one. I have beef steaks that should beat the FoJ all the way to the bank. YMMV

June 14, 2015	#5
kygreg Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,019	Have grown 4th of July in past and did not have ripe fruit until mid July; was not the first. I got my first ripe ones this year on June 10th which is a record early date for me. The variety is Big Beef.

June 14, 2015	#7
joseph Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cache Valley, N/E of The Great Salt Lake Posts: 1,244	In my garden, 4th of July fell into the do-not-grow-again category. It produced fruit closer to mid-august. Didn't even come close to living up to it's name.