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January 13, 2018 | #31 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
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I too am breeding my own watermelon x Colorado Red Seeded Citron hybrids! |
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January 13, 2018 | #32 | |
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Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a)
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They have been growing watermelons for ages in Astrakhan and Volgograd areas of the Russian South. From XII century they have been growing great watermelons keeping seeds from the best big size (20-25 kg) watermelons sending their harvest to the central part of Russia by ships via great river Volga! Since 1930 there is an old special melon breeding station near Volgograd called Bykovskaya there this variety Kholodok was born in 1990 from a cross of 3 watermelon varieties (Melitopolskiy 143 x Kuzylbay x Charlestone Grey). Its breeder name Klavdiya Sincha is famous over the world. She is a mother of 40 great watermelon varieties during her 60 years of watermelon breeding since 1944. And there were several delegations from USA there in XX century who were impressed by tasting old Russion varieties and took many seeds back from this place. So I believe many modern foreign OP and hybrid watermelon varieties have Russian ancestry Kholodok has a typical oval shape for mid late Russian watermelons and you can keep it till New Year party (3-5 months). Usual weight is 7-30 kg, no overripe and the taste is improving after 1 month of storage.
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1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR Last edited by Andrey_BY; January 14, 2018 at 03:40 AM. |
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January 13, 2018 | #33 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Belgium
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I am impressed with the diversity. They are beautiful.
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January 13, 2018 | #34 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes, the Watermelon-citron hybrids were done at Bykov Melon Production Experiment station around 1960. The paper i read was written by M. K. Gol'dgauzen. https://keen101.files.wordpress.com/...s_tsitsin2.pdf EDIT: p.s. yes, your comment about the taste improving over the longer time it is stored is consistent with watermelon-citron hybrids. I am positive that this watermelon variety you mention was the descendant of some of that old USSR research in 1960 and i'm positive they would not have given up on that or those breeding lines. now i am even more excited to grow this variety!! Last edited by Keen101; January 13, 2018 at 07:25 PM. |
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January 14, 2018 | #35 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a)
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Yes, I know this famous Soviet book by Soviet professor Nikolay Tsitsin - Цицин "Отдаленная гибридизация растений" (1954),
There are some more books from him like this: and I see your blog about your Colorado project with watermelon-citron hybrids here: https://keen101.wordpress.com/category/science/ But I don't think you can somehow improve Kholodok, because it is perfect))) I don't want to be involved in a project American Kholodok! Just make something different trying hard! Charleston Gray x wild citron watermelons or huge Carolina Cross 180 x wild Citron could be good directions Anyway I can send you some Kholodok seeds. Just PM me your address. Bykovskaya (Bykov) Experiment Breeding Station is still the main melon, watermelon and gourd/pumpkin station in Russia.
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1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR Last edited by Andrey_BY; January 14, 2018 at 04:05 AM. |
January 14, 2018 | #36 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Russia
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The earliest watermelon for me was Lunnyi. It's a yellow fleshed small size melon. We picked our first one just 31 days after fruit set and that melon was delicious. And I would recommend Orangeglo. Although it's more of a midseason, the taste is incredibly outstanding
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April 5, 2018 | #37 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Western NC
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You might like to try New Queen.
Nice orange flesh smaller melon that might be earlier than Blacktail Mountain ( I have grown both ). It was about the same size as Blacktail Mountain for me. |
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