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January 9, 2008 | #16 |
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Sounds like that will work fine.
BER is a calcium deficiency disease. Plants can get it from a simple lack of calcium in the soil or from a lack of moisture (soil needs to be moist to keep the calcium absorbable by the roots). Some cultivars seem to need more calcium than others to prevent BER (not as efficient at taking it up through their roots, probably). That seems to me a lot of bonemeal to add, 4-lbs once a month. You should probably do a soil test next winter after you pull the plants and see how much phosphorus in an absorbable form is still there. They are getting some phosphorus from the other stuff (manure, compost, seed meals, etc), and what the plants do not use tends to stay put. Soil pH matters for phosphorus uptake, too. A soil that is dead on 6.5-7.0 can get by with less total phosporus than a soil outside that range. There was a good post by Fusion late last spring describing soil pH effect on solubility of phosphorus in the soil: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...orus#post51265
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January 10, 2008 | #17 |
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Thanks dice, that is a very good read, I've been told that phos is bound here on the desert soils, but I've kept a good regime of soil additions like manure, compost, Christmas tree mulch etc turned into the soil so I may not add anymore bonemeal this season like planned. Also I have never heard that top dressing bonemeal wasn't beneficial like the thread stated, I think I will just add another 2in layer of composted manure and cover with garden soil and wait till planting time in a couple of months. On another note, we got a good soaking rain at the first of the week and all my Christmas planted garlic popped out of the ground and grew about 2in tall this week, now all I need is peppers and tomatoes for my first bowl of salsa... LOL... 8)
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January 10, 2008 | #18 |
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I was thinking that one application of bonemeal per season,
as early as possible in the spring, is probably good enough, in combination with the other phosphorus sources in your other soil amendments. It does need to get down into the soil someway, so that the roots can reach it. What happens to top-dressed phosphorus is that it all ends up stuck to other stuff in the top 1/4-inch of the soil. There are some roots there, so the plant gets some of it if the pH is ok, but it is not as available as it would be if it were a few inches down into the soil. Bonemeal is kind of expensive stuff to only be making use of a small portion of its usable nutrients. I have top-dressed bonemeal, the plants did seem to make some use of it, but they did a lot better when it was cultivated into the top few inches of soil. Another thing you can do with it is drop a cup of it into the bottom of the planting hole for a seedling with your gypsum. That puts it right in the sweet spot for the roots. They won't get much use of it at first, but it will be coming on strong when they are setting fruit.
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January 10, 2008 | #19 |
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good idea, I will put a little more in each hole when I put the sets in. 8)
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