Blueberry Heirloom Tomato...

[igarden]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

...A question for the oiriginal poster.....Do you intend to send them a link to this thread so that they can see the ones that Craig and I listed or cut and paste them to an e-mail, and if not if you don't feel comfrotable doing that should one of us here do it to help them out as best we can?

that's a good idea carolyn. i was thinking about it.

(i did notice that of all the seed i ordered from them, only the Blueberry is on your lists for non heirloom. i ordered a few of the black/purple varieties also.)

i will send them this link...but...would it be more astute to have one of you who are much more knowledgeable than i do it? would it carry more weight? let me know what you think. and thanks!

[carolyn137]

(i did notice that of all the seed i ordered from them, only the Blueberry is on your lists for non heirloom. i ordered a few of the black/purple varieties also.)

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I'm not sure I'm following you here b'c those lists that Craig and I put up were all none heirloom varieties and Blueberry wasn't included b'c that was a given from some of the earliest posts.

I don't mind sending them this link b'c perhaps you don't know why Craig and I listed those varieties as being non-heirloom varieties, and in sending it to them I would offer to help explain why they weren't heirloom varieties.

So what do you think?

[travis]

I'm not going to argue whether the tomatoes listed at that site are heirlooms or not. I will say there is no tomato available named Blueberry, because that is a GMO that has not completed the testing regime and been released for human consumption. The tomato shown in that photo is just one of many segregating lines of the OSU Blue tomato.

Worse though than misrepresenting varietal sources or heirloom status of the seeds is the use by that site of the Master Gardener program as a commercial sales come on. No ethical Master Gardener uses his or her Master Gardener status for promoting sales of anything. That is strictly verboten by every extension service that offers the Master Gardener program.

[Jeannine Anne]

Maybe they are selling the one called Blueberry that I have..who knows..even I am not sure what I have, it came from Europe and it is different the the OSU I have. I have never yet shared seeds as I am not sure myself.

XX Jeannine

[igarden]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

...I'm not sure I'm following you here b'c those lists that Craig and I put up were all none heirloom varieties and Blueberry wasn't included b'c that was a given from some of the earliest posts.

right carolyn, but you did not put on your non-heirloom list Black Ethiopian, Black Mystery, or Black Elephant which are some i ordered.

I don't mind sending them this link b'c perhaps you don't know why Craig and I listed those varieties as being non-heirloom varieties, and in sending it to them I would offer to help explain why they weren't heirloom varieties.

So what do you think?

great idea carolyn. that's what i was thinking.

[Jeannine Anne]

I have just had a closer look at the site and there is something wrong on the squash page too.

Not much there to choose from but Musquee de Provence is described as a maxima species and it is a moschata,it grows to 14/18 pounds not 5/10 as they quote, and on that page they are describing it as Musquee de Provence Heirloom Tomato?

It would seem they don't know there squash very well either. I do, and they are wrong in their description of this one.

XX Jeannine

[travis]

Jeannine, just because your "Blueberry" tomato seeds came from Europe does not mean they did not originate in the United States. For instance, I sent OSU Blue seeds to Europe (Great Britain and Germany) myself in 2008. Anyway, there is a lady in Washington (state) who's grown and for a couple of years has distributed seeds for a tomato she calls Blueberry that looks like OSU Blue with a pointed blossom end. But she has be very circumspect regarding her seed source except to say they were not the genetically engineered Blueberry tomato from Europe.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by travis

I'm not going to argue whether the tomatoes listed at that site are heirlooms or not. I will say there is no tomato available named Blueberry, because that is a GMO that has not completed the testing regime and been released for human consumption. The tomato shown in that photo is just one of many segregating lines of the OSU Blue tomato.

Worse though than misrepresenting varietal sources or heirloom status of the seeds is the use by that site of the Master Gardener program as a commercial sales come on. No ethical Master Gardener uses his or her Master Gardener status for promoting sales of anything. That is strictly verboten by every extension service that offers the Master Gardener program.

Travis, I just went back and looked at the site and I don't see where it's said that the person is a Master Gardener who is promoting the site, and I do agree with you if true.

I read three pages of the blog as well, and then just wasn't in the mood to continue. So how about telling me where at the site you found the info you posted above?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by igarden

right carolyn, but you did not put on your non-heirloom list Black Ethiopian, Black Mystery, or Black Elephant which are some i ordered.



great idea carolyn. that's what i was thinking.

OK, I can update that list and when I see Travis post with that Master Gardener information I can send along this link, or just cut and paste the two lists Craig and I made and add what you just posted.

However, I do think that sending the whole link might be a good idea based on some great info posted in this thread, to date.

Just trying to calm down here after a wicked T storm passed by and watches and warnings still out until 9 PM tonight.

[Jeannine Anne]

Travis, the info I got when I got my seeds from a friend in Holland was that they were created there, not in the UK.It came to me described as a European Blueberry I was concerned when I heard about the GMO one after posting for info here and although it seemed impossible that this is what I had I was nervous. I grew them last year along with OSU, the plants were shorter, the fruit was smaller and was tastier than OSU..I am still unsure of what they are. I would love to know more but I doubt if I will ever truly find out .

XX Jeannine

[travis]

Carolyn, I was referring to the advertising links on the front page.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by travis

Carolyn, I was referring to the advertising links on the front page.

Got it Travis, thanks, I was looking in the wrong place.