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Old May 26, 2012   #16
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Hip Hop. Now I know they are talking about Hip Hop.
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Old May 26, 2012   #17
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who wouldn't want hip hop soil.
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Old May 26, 2012   #18
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MG is Miracle Grow, They make starting seed , potting soil , and garden soil
Miracle Grow moisture control get bad reviews
Ferti-Lome is is a great starting and potting soil
MetroMix make a great one also
I got a free bag of Epsoma Organic Pottiing soil with Mygrorizer used in my peppers transplant pots before putting in ground. And used some on inside house plants to feed them
Funny my neighbor who grows great flower plants used MG in pots of flowers but and herbs or tomatoes get organic compost or soil she buys we all have compost earth machines. Our town sells them cheap to us, we all use only kitchen waste and our leaves from our yards only.We call this organic i put some fish fertilizer in mine Neptune's Harvest.
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Old May 26, 2012   #19
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In all seriousness FILMNET, if I need to get something off the shelf I always go with Espoma products. I really have had excellent results with the different Espoma "tones" to amend the soil.
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Old May 26, 2012   #20
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I have to agree on the Espoma products. Best organic bang for the buck out there.
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Old May 26, 2012   #21
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In all seriousness...
not sure if I can do that but I will try.

I used the MG Organic Potting Mix last year and yes it has big chunks of wood in it and I wasn't impressed. This year I transplanted all of my seedlings to MG Potting Mix and was very happy with my results. Stop, Hammer Time.
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I refuse to use any Miracle Grow (Scott's) products. They were sued and admitted by pleading guilty to using pesticides in their products including birdseed and lawn care products without declaring so on their packaging.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/gr.../2012/mar/21/2

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...-in-fines.html

I emailed their customer service to inquire if the birdseed that I recently bought might contain poison. It has been 2 weeks and no response. Therefore I assume that they are still using and selling tainted products.
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In a pinch for some additional seed starting mix, I did buy MG's version since it was the only brand at the local source. I'd say the results were average. Generally, I feel the same way that Patti does about MG. I normally use a seedstarter that I order online from Gardener's Supply that works well. I know that MG fertilizeors are chemically based and I avoid them. I also like Espoma's (TomatoTone, and HollyTone for the azaleas). I have also done well with the organic fertilizers from Gardens Alive, however, they are overpriced and, I felt, not better than Espoma.
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Yesterday, I was informed that Scott's had bought out Whitney Farms, and that all the formulas have been changed and they are not the same quality I was used to. I thought I had noticed that a couple of years ago, but now I'm certain. The mushroom compost I bought from them 2 years ago was crap.

The corporatization of America marches on.

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For seed starting I give fox farm or happy frog a two thumbs up. I had 98% germination this season. It was fantastic soil.
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I have made the turn now, Organic as much as possible,my compost, Espoma, tomato tone, garden lime,Bio-mix and others and Neptunes harvest fish/seaweed for me in my garden now. Herb and flower pots Fert=ilome and my compost. Neptunes is located 10 miles north of me, they wont sell from there building. There in the oldest fishing Harbour here in the USA Gloucester, Ma. you can buy fresh north Atlantic fish here discounted. but not Neptune's Harvest which is beside the water also.
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Janezee, I think you are buying from the wrong corporations. There are plenty of great American corporations - try Espoma - a $20 million/yr company based in Millville, NJ. The corporationization of America is a very good thing, indeed, when they get their produces and prices right.
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Old June 26, 2012   #28
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What about MG organic choice garden soil review?
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Old June 28, 2012   #29
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What about MG organic choice garden soil review?
Too expensive. I use soils and container mixes in such quantities
that bagged products would be impractical, regardless of whether
they were any good or not. (Bagged "garden soil" is usually just dirt
with some composted cow manure and wood waste mixed in.
Occasionally it will have a litte peat, too, if the manufacturer
happens to use enough of that in their container mixes to get it
at train car load quantities and prices.)

Usually one would get a higher grade of product from a landscape
materials supply company, and it will be cheaper by the cubic yard,
too, than it would be in bags. However, not all "landscape materials
supply companies" are reliable. Some will mix up any old dirt with
something organic looking, like pine bark, and that is their "gardening
mix." You need to talk to people in your area that have bought from
local suppliers and see how what the suppliers offered worked for
those people. If you can find a local gardening forum, you can ask
a question like, "I need to fill a raised bed for vegetable growing. Any
recommendations for local suppliers and particular soil mixes?"
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Well said Dice!
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