How long do Exel LG and Actinovate need to be on plant?

[mdvpc]

DeWayne-no hijack, lets all work together on problems. I use 1 oz per gallon.

[amideutch]

You need to gauge your application rate to the stage of growth your plants are in. With younger plants I start off with 1 tablespoon (1/2oz) per gallon and increase it as the plant grows. Add a little Black Strap Molasses 1 teaspoon per gallon as a sticker. Use 1 cup of hot water to dissolve the molasses and add to the gallon of water/Exel solution. Ami

[Dewayne mater]

Ami- Great advice that I wish I'd followed and will next time! D'oh!

Dewayne

[tsipgolf12]

I think I am having the same type of problem. It started with black tips on the leaf and progressed from there to where it is in the pictures. I have sprayed with greencure and B54red's bleach formula four times( twice each) in the last 5 days
because it has rained and washed the plants almost everyday. What is it? Have I
burned the leaves with overspraying...spraying in the early morning or late
evening. The leaves are the moderate problems...the really bad stuff has been
removed and bagged.

Thanks RWG

[amideutch]

The bleach will cause that. I would only use bleach as a last resort if the other products do not work. Bleach is something you do not want to use on a continuous basis, only as a last resort.
Ami

[ScottinAtlanta]

Originally Posted by amideutch

You need to gauge your application rate to the stage of growth your plants are in. With younger plants I start off with 1 tablespoon (1/2oz) per gallon and increase it as the plant grows. Add a little Black Strap Molasses 1 teaspoon per gallon as a sticker. Use 1 cup of hot water to dissolve the molasses and add to the gallon of water/Exel solution. Ami

Great detail. Thanks! I am using Exel for the first time this year, and found this whole thread very useful.

[tsipgolf12]

Originally Posted by amideutch

The bleach will cause that. I would only use bleach as a last resort if the other products do not work. Bleach is something you do not want to use on a continuous basis, only as a last resort.
Ami

Saturday morning I sprayed with actinovate and naturally we had a monsoon
saturday evening...do I need to respray? Does actinovate work quickly on a
problem or is it a slow acting agent ?

thanks RWG

[Dewayne mater]

Scott - You may want to read my latest entry in a concurrent threat about black leaf tips on tomato plants. It is a cautionary tail of not using too much Exel g. I will definitely continue to use the product because it is effective, but, too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

Dewayne mater

[amideutch]

Saturday morning I sprayed with actinovate and naturally we had a monsoon
saturday evening...do I need to respray? Does actinovate work quickly on a
problem or is it a slow acting agent ?

As soon as the rain abates I would apply again. If rain is in the forecast wait for the front to pass then reapply the Actinovate. I would guess that in 24 hours after application it would be working but a more definite answer would have to come from the manufacturer. Ami

[RayR]

Originally Posted by amideutch

As soon as the rain abates I would apply again. If rain is in the forecast wait for the front to pass then reapply the Actinovate. I would guess that in 24 hours after application it would be working but a more definite answer would have to come from the manufacturer. Ami

That is a good question for Natural Industries, I've never did a foliar of Actinovate unless the long term weather forecast showed no rain. I think you are right Ami that it would probably take at least 24 hours for the spores to activate and the bacteria to adhere to the leaves, but at least they won't go to waste by being washed into the soil.

[Crandrew]

Originally Posted by amideutch

I don't see any problem. But using molasses versus kelp might be a better choice with the Exel LG and Actinovate. Ami

I use actinovate, Exel and Molasses one day, then Neem Oil and molasses the next the next day. I didnt seem to have any problems and they worked wonderfully.

[amideutch]

but at least they won't go to waste by being washed into the soil.

Don't think it would be a waste as we apply it also to the plants root ball on plant out. It works as a foliar as well as a drench. Ami

[tsipgolf12]

Originally Posted by amideutch

Don't think it would be a waste as we apply it also to the plants root ball on plant out. It works as a foliar as well as a drench. Ami

I have learned a great deal and appreciate the suggestions that you and RayR have made in
your posts and replys. This is the first year I have used actinovate and microbes. Unfortunately I planted out before I had received my actinovate and mycogrow. The plants went out with jobes organic fertilizer with microbes and neem and greencure spray for insect and foliar issues. Then we experienced 3 near freezes and 12 days of almost constant rain. I experienced the same black tip of the leaf problem that slowly spread to
the rest of the leaf and then turned gray and papery. I suspected it was a foliar issue but
did not know. I then discovered B54red's diluted bleach method of attacking the problem as nothing I was doing was having any real effect on the problem. The bleach burned the
edges of the affected leaves. I was spraying greencure and then it rained , spraying and then it rained. The black tip started showing up on new growth. My actinovate arrived and
the next morning the sun was gracious enough to shine and I immeadiately sprayed with
actiinovate. That afternoon we had a monsoon and once again it got cold again for two days. That was when I asked for advice about needing to spray actinovate again and
wondered whether neem and greencure would be compatible. I now know from going
to the actinovate instructions page that actintovate is compatible with other fungicides and insecticides. So I sprayed with everything at the same time. Thanks goodness it has been dry since I sprayed. I was suffering from several problems at the same time. It was suggested that I had nitrogen poisoning from excess fertilizer application, burned leaves from bleach application, and then I found the little insects on the underside of the leaves.
looked like aphids or mites of some kind. Iam now waiting with baited breath to see what
happens next. I wish I had become aware of microbial advantages and actinovate and had the product prior to planting. Thanks to you all I certainly will for next time ...now I wait to see how well they work as drenches and foliar sprays without the rootball being innoculate. Thanks so much for all you help

RWG

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