Croatian tomatoes

[Solanum315]

Originally Posted by Kazedwards

A few days ago I receive these seeds. The person who sent them lives in Croatia and sent them as a surprise gift. They didn't send very much info. Only a few things on the seed packages with the name. Mainly it is where the variety is from. Does anyone know anything about these? Also I would like to grow one of these this year any suggestions?

Dalmatiner, traditional Croatian Tomato
Źrnovnica, Croatian tomato
Tomato
Vrbnički, Croatian tomato from Vrbnik
Domaca Pfarrgarten, Croatian Tomato
Jabuca Velika Plana, Serbian Apple tomato from Velika Plana
Volovsko Srce, Croatian Oxheart
Hercegovac, tomato from Hercegovina
Rozova Maghija
Jalovec, Slovenian Tomato
Sljivar Valpovo, Croatian plum from valpovo, Slavonia, Croatia
Carskiy Podarok (maybe Tsarskiy Podarok?)
Inima de Bou Botosani

http://worldtomatoes.blogspot.com/2013/10/jabucar.html I have grown Jabucar. I got my seeds from my Serbian cousin. Nice variety.

[clara]

I have seeds for Jabucar, too, but I'm wondering which Jabucar they are...

According to ventmarin, the French site, there are 28 (!) varieties which Jabucar in the name...

[efisakov]

Originally Posted by clara

I have seeds for Jabucar, too, but I'm wondering which Jabucar they are...

According to ventmarin, the French site, there are 28 (!) varieties which Jabucar in the name...

What is the sours of your seeds? I got my described as "lg red heart from Croatia". They came from greyghost who got them from ddsek.

[clara]

Then we have the same source.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by clara

I have seeds for Jabucar, too, but I'm wondering which Jabucar they are...

According to ventmarin, the French site, there are 28 (!) varieties which Jabucar in the name...

The Jabucar that I have, still waiting for the seeds,which have beensent,is

Novosadski Jabucar.

Described as probably from Novi Sad in Serbia but grown in Slovenia for a long time.Med red,prolific,good keeper.

It really does surprise me how long it takes when I send seeds promised to different countries.Went sent I em the person and ask to b enotified when they arrive,since I'm one who worries.

I sent stuff to Spain and Denmark on the same day and mine got to Spain in a bit over a week ,that's great,and also to Denmark and haven't heard a thing.

However,I live just four hours from the Canadian border and when sending or receiving from Canada,well,all I can say is that the Canadian Postal system is NOT good all

To the point that seed is headed for Canada maybe I should send to Spain and have my contact there send them to Canada and they would get there more quickly..

Carolyn

[clara]

Then you have really bad luck with Canada, Carolyn! I have traded a lot of seeds with a good friend in Canada and both ways, it seldom takes more than 8 days, the last time from Canada to me only 3 or 4 days.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by clara

Then you have really bad luck with Canada, Carolyn! I have traded a lot of seeds with a good friend in Canada and both ways, it seldom takes more than 8 days, the last time from Canada to me only 3 or 4 days.

Yes Clara,consistently bad luck ever since the early 90's when I was sending out the OTV newsletter to several Canadians ,and Neil G in Canada, a long time friend has the same problem I have as well sending seeds to me, so always with fingers crossed when sending either way.

Carolyn

[Maticc]

- "Jalovec" Slovenian tomato. Coming from Slovenia I have never heard for this one before. I checked our two main tomato forums where all varieties are mentioned in some way or another, word Jalovec simply doesn't appear.
Jalovec is a very famous Slovenian mountain which impresses by it's appereance, but no relation to any tomato whatsoever.

- Volovsko Srce is not Croatian but Slovenian heirloom variety.
- As some has mentioned before, "Jabucar" doesn't really tell much. "Jabuka" means apple in serbo-croatian and Jabucar refere to an apple-like quality. Which many tomatoes that has a word jabucar in their name, usually do resemble. Novosadski Jabucar for example is a medium-size red tomato of almost perfect round shape.
But like we figured it out already, Jabucar itself doesn't really mean anything and it's most likely not an actual tomato variety.

I did many trades over the years and there were really just a few that didn't turn out that great.
I can share what Carolyn (hey Carolyn !) almost experienced. I figured out too late many of the varieties were slightly renamed, names errored with not one but few letters, I even got diferent tomato varieties packed in a single zip bag. I was told by this same trader to seperate them by colour of seeds. Which is not really accepteable.
I still hope seeds will be of some use to you, but I would be a bit skeptical about the varieties because of the reasons mentioned.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Maticc

- "Jalovec" Slovenian tomato. Coming from Slovenia I have never heard for this one before. I checked our two main tomato forums where all varieties are mentioned in some way or another, word Jalovec simply doesn't appear.
Jalovec is a very famous Slovenian mountain which impresses by it's appereance, but no relation to any tomato whatsoever.

- Volovsko Srce is not Croatian but Slovenian heirloom variety.
- As some has mentioned before, "Jabucar" doesn't really tell much. "Jabuka" means apple in serbo-croatian and Jabucar refere to an apple-like quality. Which many tomatoes that has a word jabucar in their name, usually do resemble. Novosadski Jabucar for example is a medium-size red tomato of almost perfect round shape.
But like we figured it out already, Jabucar itself doesn't really mean anything and it's most likely not an actual tomato variety.

I did many trades over the years and there were really just a few that didn't turn out that great.
I can share what Carolyn (hey Carolyn !) almost experienced. I figured out too late many of the varieties were slightly renamed, names errored with not one but few letters, I even got diferent tomato varieties packed in a single zip bag. I was told by this same trader to seperate them by colour of seeds. Which is not really accepteable.
I still hope seeds will be of some use to you, but I would be a bit skeptical about the varieties because of the reasons mentioned.

Good grief Mattic, as you call yourself here, where did you come from here at Tville ?I just checked and you joined in Dec of 2015, but chose not to introduce yourself in TownHall,which is why this is a wonderful surprise.

I'm glad to see that you made some corrections above and also disagreed with the same trader.

Just noting that Mattic and I just finished a very good trade and my seeds to him arrived from Slovenia on the same day that he got mine.

Yes,I made contact with Mattic elsewhere as to trading.

All good!!!!!

Carolyn, and please post more often as well.

[RJGlew]

Originally Posted by Maticc

...but I would be a bit skeptical about the varieties because of the reasons mentioned.

It is refreshing to have you aboard. I have noticed that when we have international experts we can correct misinformation and eliminate hand me down folklore. Mr Big has been exceptional in clearing up CZ variety misinformation - for example the Stupické/Matina realities & the Moravsky Div myth - and I hope you can do the same for Croatian varieties. Vlad has been very good at correcting information with Tatiana in the Tomatobase, and it would be great if you could do this as well.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Main_Page

Thank you.