Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 22, 2017 | #16 |
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See post #4 above first
No way could I ever predict that this or that variety is always blemish free, since I cannot predict hailstorms,nor can I predict critter damage,nor can I predict any fungal spores or bacteria that are transmitted in raindrops, and I can't predict which way the wind will blow to know if those pathogens are going to hit my plants. It looks like I don't know nuttin,well so be it. For sure I could make a list of varieties that normally are blemish free in most years,but always,no can do. That would be very hard for me to do since to date I've grown about 4,000 plus different varieties and a good many of them several times in different years when I was listing hundreds of varieties in the SSE Yearbooks.. So I'll let the rest of you give some lists. Carolyn
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July 22, 2017 | #17 |
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On the "always blemished" list, I find that heavily ribbed varieties tend to suffer a lot of catfacing, even when the weather is ideally warm. They're also very prone to fused/double blooms.
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July 22, 2017 | #18 |
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I am looking at Red Rock ....at Tatiana's page ...etc.
phrases like .... NO BER, no splitting , no cracking , disease resistant etc. Will most definitely be trying that one next year ....
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July 22, 2017 | #19 | |
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experience says ......everybody has a unique environment to grow in ... and we should all try and find what works best for our Tom culture ... (maybe with a little help from ..T-ville opinions and anecdotal experience.) I value the opinions expressed ...they often help and lead to time saving choices ...for a long term but modest exploration .
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July 22, 2017 | #20 |
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I only have one that fits the category that I can think of. For my climate anywho.
(short cold climate) 4-Five years ago I grew CherokeeChocolate, seeds from TGS. Saved seed, then grew TGS seed, side by side, for the past 3-4 yrs. Initially just wanting to see if my saved seed/seedlings would grow true. First year my saved seed/plants/fruit were all perfect, no odd shape, no checking, zippering, no minor fluting... perfect solid ripening. They look like hot-house grown fruit from a grocery store. Still saving seed and have a boat-load. Out of the TGS seed now. Have been getting same perfect fruit from my saved seed. They do not look like any other heirloom toms I grow. Exactly the same flavor side by side. Will see what happens this year... Maglia Rosa is like that but last year was my first for that variety. I'm sure many more varieties do best in various climates as many discussions have covered that over the years, yet some are much more consistently adaptable. If your methods of dealing with drought, temps, and heavy rain is figured out i could see some might have a nice top-ten list. CherokeeChocolate just happens to be the one I noticed and focused on... |
July 22, 2017 | #21 | |
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Good to remember that every time a variety is grown in any year that results can differ that have to do with all aspects of a variety, from any blemishes,taste,yield,etc.. Carolyn
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July 22, 2017 | #22 | |
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if there was we would probably loose thousands of varieties ...and our OP heritage of bio-diversity could be lost in a generation ....Yikes ! Methinks , I will try Red Rock in my portfolio next year ...LOL
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July 22, 2017 | #23 |
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Red Rock is a saladette. Saladette size tomatoes tend to produce very few blemishes. The tradeoff for growing the larger beefsteaks is that the larger size comes with more surface area on the fruit where things can go wrong.
Red Rock is also noted for thick walls. Thick walls and/or thick skin, especially in a smaller tomato, also reduces blemishes. But not everyone likes the texture of these tomatoes, which can seem "tough". A lot of this is simple physics. What's rare is a large tomato with a really great juicy yet melting and luscious texture and skin that isn't tough which is blemish-free. |
July 23, 2017 | #24 | |
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hmmm thick walls .......hence the name red...."ROCK " ???? hmmmm there seems to be the "round cherries " that keep in good condition and small fruited ones ..... (Like Matina) I guess we should be happy with "medium " ones that keep in good condition and taste ....."near " the big ones ? I guess you take the chances how it will all turn out ...every season ...
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July 23, 2017 | #25 |
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Tarasenko-6 is one of the best-yielding OP varieties I have grown. But like any heavy-yielding tomato, I think flavor has to suffer a little. It's not bad at all, but I would rate it a notch below Cosmonaut Volkov.
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July 23, 2017 | #26 |
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Koroleva, very consistent tasty pink medium orbs, high recommend
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July 23, 2017 | #27 | |
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It can't be that bad ...when picked straight from garden and integrated into breakfast ...LOL . I just don't want things to get out of control ......so then I don't have to change my name to .." Black ....BER "........LOL
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July 23, 2017 | #28 | |
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medium size etc. who has/ vends them ?
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July 23, 2017 | #29 |
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I agree with Carolyn. Think it all depends on weather conditions and your growing practices. Last year I only had one plant that got BER. My fault. It didn't like water hardly at all.
This year, my plants have gone through hurricane winds, downed trees on them, weeks of rain and then unbearable heat and humidity and back to tons of rain and have had some BER this year. More than I have ever seen her before. If I had to pick a couple it would be Dixie Golden Giant Eli those two may be a bit too long for your season. Cherry size, have to go with Port Charles Herring Punta Banda |
August 10, 2017 | #30 |
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No Core ...also in search ?
Another related word ...
in search . is " No Core" Blemish free crackless No BER Disease resistant etc. etc. interesting for another search possibley not related much but still interesting.
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