YOUR Tentativ Grow out ... for 2016 season - Page 22

Gardeneer · April 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by coldframer

Do you raise your own root stock? I've seen stock for sale, but wondered if you could grow those from seed. Now, back to the other stuff, there is no genetic overlap with grafting end-result? In improvement of either stock or scion in regards to environmental sensitivities?

I have not done it but it is not a difficult task.
There are several root stocks sold. Some are very expensive some are not. The cheapest one is Big Beef.

Gardeneer

efisakov · April 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by coldframer

Was Blackberry very hardy? I love my Black Krim (so productive and reliable in my zone 5), but the name Blackberry sounds yum!

It was hardy for me last year. I am growing it again this year. It tasted better consistently, even during a rainy spells.

SummerSky · April 5, 2016

I'm totally late this year. Not for starting the seeds, but for planning them! I need to start them, but I lost all my trays and cells in the move. No idea what the heck happened to them. So I have to buy new ones before I can get them going. Anywho, here's my cut for this year.

Pastes/Hearts
Chico III
Rio Grande
San Marzano Lungo 2
Big Mama F1
Striped Roman
Santa Maria
Antique Roman
Japanese Plum
Cow's Tit
Hienz 2653
Meaty Russian
Linnie's Oxheart
Rozovyi Myod
Work Release
Monkey ★★★
Fish Lake Oxheart

Slicers/Beefsteaks
Big Boy F1
Better Boy F1
Rutger's Select
KBX
Ball's Beefsteak F1
Big Beef F1
Rozovyi Velikan
Thessaloniki
GGWT
Golden Queen USDA
Indian Stripe
"Amish Market" (a very good tomato my dad got from an Amish farmer at the farmer's market about four years ago, I saved a few seeds)
Moonglow
Boxcar Willie
Neves Azorean Red
Captain Lucky
Hoskins-Barger

Cherries/Saladette
Coyote
Ildi
Sungold F1
Bosque Blue Bumblebee
Pink Bumblebee
Purple Bumblebee
Blush
Tumbling Tom
Japanese Pink Cherry

Dwarfs
Uluru Ochre
Arctic Rose
Pink Passion
Purple Heart
Iditarod

Others
Zapotec
Striped Cavern
White Furry Boar
Fuzzy Wuzzy

Jonnyhat · April 6, 2016

i know you guys are a lot better at this than me, can someone take a quick look at my list and let me know which are Det. ? It would really help in my garden layout

efisakov · April 6, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnyhat

i know you guys are a lot better at this than me, can someone take a quick look at my list and let me know which are Det. ? It would really help in my garden layout

Ask AlittleSalt about Pinky Blast. He grew it last year.
Sophie's Choice is determinate, I never grew it.
The rest look like indeterminate.

Cole_Robbie · April 7, 2016

Maglia Rosa is determinate.

efisakov · April 7, 2016

Maglia Rosa

Yak54 · April 8, 2016

Just planted my seeds a few days ago and they are starting to germinate. So I'm looking forward to the 2016 season and especially to the 6 "new to me" varieties this year.

Odoriko
Stump of the World
Sweet Ozark Orange
Riesentraube
Brandywine Cowlicks
Momotaro
Dr. Lyle
Orange Russian 117
Sungold F1
Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
Dwarf Orange Cream

First time trying grow bags for my 2 new dwarf varieties

Hope we have decent weather this season.

Cole_Robbie · April 9, 2016

We can ask Fred about Maglia Rosa. It's his variety. Mine were very determinate.

marc_groleau · April 10, 2016

All my tomatoes this year will be repeat plantings wxcept for my f1 Rode de Berne X Prudence Purple cross

Eva Purple Ball
Prudence Purple
Rose'De Berne
Rose De'Berne X Prudence Purple F1
Stump of the World
Gregori's Altai
Dester
My own Cherry called Big Stella Rosa
My own Cherry called Luna Rosa
Black cherry
Viva Italia Paste
Russian Big Roma Paste
Speckled Roman
Unknown variety I've been calling "Small Red Early"
Siletz
Beaver Lodge

Fred Hempel · April 10, 2016

If grown without pruning, Maglia Rosa will be bushy and low growing. If lower leaves and branches are trimmed, you can get it to vine up.

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

We can ask Fred about Maglia Rosa. It's his variety. Mine were very determinate.

bower · April 10, 2016

The name of this thread is good for me... everything very tentative in 2016. Space is the final frontier, but maybe time will be a contender too.

In spite of the unresolved ??? I finally started seeds anyway. I kept back a few seeds at least of every variety, to try again next year in case this lot get abandoned and or hucked into the great outdoors in bad weather. Many of my F3's are destined for outdoors anyway, because there is no room at the inn! I'm actually thankful

that my friend had a damping off problem while out of town, because the perished sungolds have made room for some of my random cherries and small fruit.

So here is what I have up:

PINK
Mazarini - new to me
VB Russia - new to me
Pervaya Lyubov - repeat, so early!
Kitten Paws Pink F3 - half dozen, looking for saladette sizes
RED
Altajsij Urozajnij - repeat, so sweet!
Rodney X A.U. F1 - will be red, size/shape variable, hopefully early - 3 plants
Hope's Early F3 - 3. extra early, soft red hearts
Hope's Early X Winter Sky F1 - exploring genetics of texture (firmness) 2
three F1 crosses with Black Nipper (2 plants each) expect indet red cherries, long shapes.
YELLOW/ORANGE/BICOLOR
Oaxacan Jewel PL - back by popular demand
Orange Minsk - new to me, don't know if tangerine or beta
V. Desjatku - yellow, determinate, new to me
Warbler Yellow F2 - expecting segregation for size etc... 7 plants
Winter Sky F3 - looking for the Beta/Beta determinate.. 7
BLACK
Owen's Purple... new!
Royal Purple... new!
Beist B1-15 F3 - 2 plants. Friend is growing more F2's, selecting more early ones
Skipper F2: mini and bigger beefs... 6 will be happy with a medium small size
Rodney F2: radish/heart/plum? just 4 this time
Sundog F3: gotta see the Beta/Beta gf/gf... 6 plants
Black Nipper F4 - nearly forgot. 4 of these semi-determinate cherries, must see how growth habit continues to segregate or ?? stable
Blackest Cherry F3 - half dozen indeterminates - not for me but sungold replacements

Peppers are up too... keeping it simple and only keeping a few.. if I may
Jimmy Nardello - back again
Italian Pepperoncini - back
Mini Bells - new
Zolotoy Telets - new
Piment D'Esplette - new
Early Jalapeno - back, amazingly from 5 year old seeds

lexusnexus · April 14, 2016

Looks like the following are going in the garden this year:

1. Brandywine Sudduths
2. Burpee's Supersteak
3. Cherokee Purple
4. JD's Special C-Tex
5. Pink Bumble Bee
6. San Marzano
7. Sun Gold
8. Thessanonika

I will be starting them from seed today or tomorrow. I need to time them so they don't germinate before my new grow lamp arrives next Monday.

Dan

Captain Neon · April 14, 2016

Wow! I'm in 4a and I started my seeds on 3/20/2016. I've actually started hardening off some of mine. You should be almost a month ahead of me down there.

SharonRossy · April 14, 2016

Today I potted up into 4" pots:
ISPL - Repeat but first time as a PL
Daniel Burson - 1st time
GGWT - 1st time
Cherokee Carbon - 1st time
Spudatula - first time growing the PL variety
Carbon Copy - 1st time
NAR - repeat
Rebel Yell - 1st time
Biyskaya Roza - 1st time
Moravsky Div - 1st time
Cherokee Green - repeat
Aunt Gertie's Gold - my third and last attempt
Sun Sugar - repeat
Green Tiger - repeat
Maglia Rosa - new
Rosella - new
Bulgarian Triumph - new
George Detsikas Italian Red
Orange Minsk
And I started seeds for Sun Gold, Captain Lucky and Orange Caprese which haven't germinated yet.

April 8, 2016	#323
Yak54 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Madison, OH, zone 6 Posts: 474	2016 Grow list Just planted my seeds a few days ago and they are starting to germinate. So I'm looking forward to the 2016 season and especially to the 6 "new to me" varieties this year. Odoriko Stump of the World Sweet Ozark Orange Riesentraube Brandywine Cowlicks Momotaro Dr. Lyle Orange Russian 117 Sungold F1 Sweet Scarlet Dwarf Dwarf Orange Cream First time trying grow bags for my 2 new dwarf varieties Hope we have decent weather this season.

April 10, 2016	#327
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	The name of this thread is good for me... everything very tentative in 2016. Space is the final frontier, but maybe time will be a contender too. In spite of the unresolved ??? I finally started seeds anyway. I kept back a few seeds at least of every variety, to try again next year in case this lot get abandoned and or hucked into the great outdoors in bad weather. Many of my F3's are destined for outdoors anyway, because there is no room at the inn! I'm actually thankful that my friend had a damping off problem while out of town, because the perished sungolds have made room for some of my random cherries and small fruit. So here is what I have up: PINK Mazarini - new to me VB Russia - new to me Pervaya Lyubov - repeat, so early! Kitten Paws Pink F3 - half dozen, looking for saladette sizes RED Altajsij Urozajnij - repeat, so sweet! Rodney X A.U. F1 - will be red, size/shape variable, hopefully early - 3 plants Hope's Early F3 - 3. extra early, soft red hearts Hope's Early X Winter Sky F1 - exploring genetics of texture (firmness) 2 three F1 crosses with Black Nipper (2 plants each) expect indet red cherries, long shapes. YELLOW/ORANGE/BICOLOR Oaxacan Jewel PL - back by popular demand Orange Minsk - new to me, don't know if tangerine or beta V. Desjatku - yellow, determinate, new to me Warbler Yellow F2 - expecting segregation for size etc... 7 plants Winter Sky F3 - looking for the Beta/Beta determinate.. 7 BLACK Owen's Purple... new! Royal Purple... new! Beist B1-15 F3 - 2 plants. Friend is growing more F2's, selecting more early ones Skipper F2: mini and bigger beefs... 6 will be happy with a medium small size Rodney F2: radish/heart/plum? just 4 this time Sundog F3: gotta see the Beta/Beta gf/gf... 6 plants Black Nipper F4 - nearly forgot. 4 of these semi-determinate cherries, must see how growth habit continues to segregate or ?? stable Blackest Cherry F3 - half dozen indeterminates - not for me but sungold replacements Peppers are up too... keeping it simple and only keeping a few.. if I may Jimmy Nardello - back again Italian Pepperoncini - back Mini Bells - new Zolotoy Telets - new Piment D'Esplette - new Early Jalapeno - back, amazingly from 5 year old seeds Last edited by bower; April 10, 2016 at 10:13 AM. Reason: forgot one :D and another one!

April 14, 2016	#328
lexusnexus Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: MD Suburbs of DC, Zone 7a Posts: 500	Looks like the following are going in the garden this year: 1. Brandywine Sudduths 2. Burpee's Supersteak 3. Cherokee Purple 4. JD's Special C-Tex 5. Pink Bumble Bee 6. San Marzano 7. Sun Gold 8. Thessanonika I will be starting them from seed today or tomorrow. I need to time them so they don't germinate before my new grow lamp arrives next Monday. Dan __________________ Dan

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April 5, 2016	#318
SummerSky Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 126	I'm totally late this year. Not for starting the seeds, but for planning them! I need to start them, but I lost all my trays and cells in the move. No idea what the heck happened to them. So I have to buy new ones before I can get them going. Anywho, here's my cut for this year. Pastes/Hearts Chico III Rio Grande San Marzano Lungo 2 Big Mama F1 Striped Roman Santa Maria Antique Roman Japanese Plum Cow's Tit Hienz 2653 Meaty Russian Linnie's Oxheart Rozovyi Myod Work Release Monkey ★★★ Fish Lake Oxheart Slicers/Beefsteaks Big Boy F1 Better Boy F1 Rutger's Select KBX Ball's Beefsteak F1 Big Beef F1 Rozovyi Velikan Thessaloniki GGWT Golden Queen USDA Indian Stripe "Amish Market" (a very good tomato my dad got from an Amish farmer at the farmer's market about four years ago, I saved a few seeds) Moonglow Boxcar Willie Neves Azorean Red Captain Lucky Hoskins-Barger Cherries/Saladette Coyote Ildi Sungold F1 Bosque Blue Bumblebee Pink Bumblebee Purple Bumblebee Blush Tumbling Tom Japanese Pink Cherry Dwarfs Uluru Ochre Arctic Rose Pink Passion Purple Heart Iditarod Others Zapotec Striped Cavern White Furry Boar Fuzzy Wuzzy

April 6, 2016	#319
Jonnyhat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 337	i know you guys are a lot better at this than me, can someone take a quick look at my list and let me know which are Det. ? It would really help in my garden layout

April 7, 2016	#321
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Maglia Rosa is determinate.

April 9, 2016	#324
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	We can ask Fred about Maglia Rosa. It's his variety. Mine were very determinate.

April 10, 2016	#325
marc_groleau Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 444	All my tomatoes this year will be repeat plantings wxcept for my f1 Rode de Berne X Prudence Purple cross Eva Purple Ball Prudence Purple Rose'De Berne Rose De'Berne X Prudence Purple F1 Stump of the World Gregori's Altai Dester My own Cherry called Big Stella Rosa My own Cherry called Luna Rosa Black cherry Viva Italia Paste Russian Big Roma Paste Speckled Roman Unknown variety I've been calling "Small Red Early" Siletz Beaver Lodge

April 14, 2016	#329
Captain Neon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Florence KY Posts: 234	Wow! I'm in 4a and I started my seeds on 3/20/2016. I've actually started hardening off some of mine. You should be almost a month ahead of me down there.

April 14, 2016	#330
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	Today I potted up into 4" pots: ISPL - Repeat but first time as a PL Daniel Burson - 1st time GGWT - 1st time Cherokee Carbon - 1st time Spudatula - first time growing the PL variety Carbon Copy - 1st time NAR - repeat Rebel Yell - 1st time Biyskaya Roza - 1st time Moravsky Div - 1st time Cherokee Green - repeat Aunt Gertie's Gold - my third and last attempt Sun Sugar - repeat Green Tiger - repeat Maglia Rosa - new Rosella - new Bulgarian Triumph - new George Detsikas Italian Red Orange Minsk And I started seeds for Sun Gold, Captain Lucky and Orange Caprese which haven't germinated yet.