Is there a list of BER NEVER varieties ?

[SharonRossy]

I have had BER on elongated cherries as well like Juliette and Green Tiger. GT was minimal but Juliette was pretty severe. I'm checking daily now for BER because it really strikes fear in my heart when it starts. So far nothing but taking nothing for granted.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by gorbelly

I pulled this off of one of my Anna Russian plants today.


And my other AR plant has one as well, but that one is much larger, so I'm debating leaving it on and hoping the BER stays dry.

Granted, the 2 plants are producing magnificent, large, perfect, unblemished hearts in more than satisfactory quantities (still green, though, *impatient sigh*), so it's not that huge a loss, and it really looks like it's only 1 fruit on each plant.

Still ...some how if only a fruit ...or two ... ok then

But one doesn't like to look at such "potential" lost ...etc.

I guess if one has real productive plants ...and the first one/two are BER

that maybe should be looked as the "deal " when growing certain varieties and Just appreciate the good production that follows etc.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by SharonRossy

I have had BER on elongated cherries as well like Juliette and Green Tiger. GT was minimal but Juliette was pretty severe. I'm checking daily now for BER because it really strikes fear in my heart when it starts. So far nothing but taking nothing for granted.

I hate to say it but ...but in my environment .....

Juliet (hybrid) never had BER ...etc.

after the info. said here I think the elongated ones , sausage shape, pepper shape , etc. etc. .....I would be very cautious to try if BER was a concern .

[gorbelly]

Originally Posted by BlackBear

Still ...some how if only a fruit ...or two ... ok then

But one doesn't like to look at such "potential" lost ...etc.

I guess if one has real productive plants ...and the first one/two are BER

that maybe should be looked as the "deal " when growing certain varieties and Just appreciate the good production that follows etc.

I think any tomato plant is capable of having BER given certain conditions or just as a fluke.

One fruit on a plant is not something I'd categorize as a variety with a BER problem.

I'm not looking for something that will never get me BER. I'm looking for something that produces a lot of usable fruit that tastes great. If there's some BER but production of usable fruit is excellent, then the BER is not a problem. There are probably plants that for all practical purposes can be declared "never BER" but they may be less worth growing because of lesser yield or less delightful flavor.

It's just not a deciding factor for me unless the variety has a true BER problem, i.e., I feel like I'm losing a lot of production and putting a lot of time and effort into unusable tomatoes.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by gorbelly

I think any tomato plant is capable of having BER given certain conditions or just as a fluke.

One fruit on a plant is not something I'd categorize as a variety with a BER problem.

I'm not looking for something that will never get me BER. I'm looking for something that produces a lot of usable fruit that tastes great. If there's some BER but production of usable fruit is excellent, then the BER is not a problem. There are probably plants that for all practical purposes can be declared "never BER" but they may be less worth growing because of lesser yield or less delightful flavor.

It's just not a deciding factor for me unless the variety has a true BER problem, i.e., I feel like I'm losing a lot of production and putting a lot of time and effort into unusable tomatoes.

I agree ....still I would explore less chance of BER and choices and trade offs it would mean .

[HudsonValley]

I am surprised to see no signs whatsoever of BER this year, since I'm growing about 40 different varieties. I don't know if I should credit the weather (lots and lots of rain, seasonal temperatures without sustained heatwaves) or the Tomato Texas Food. I was initially skeptical of the company's claim that it helps prevent BER, but even the pastes and piriforms look good...

[Gardeneer]

Some varietie are well known to be prone to BER. But I don't think there is BER free variety, because it depends on the conditions, notably soil moisture. If it goes from boom to bust then most will get BER. That is what I have experienced this season.

[BlackBear]

so stable ...(not cold to record heat and back again etc.) and moderate

temps and moderate rate growing conditions helps the BER susceptible plants keep the fruit growth stress in sync. with the overall plant (roots and foliage ) ???

I guess the nature of attempting to grow in containers will stress some varieties ... and out will pop some BER due to the container growing stress ?

[garyjr]

Originally Posted by BlackBear

so stable ...(not cold to record heat and back again etc.) and moderate

temps and moderate rate growing conditions helps the BER susceptible plants keep the fruit growth stress in sync. with the overall plant (roots and foliage ) ???

I guess the nature of attempting to grow in containers will stress some varieties ... and out will pop some BER due to the container growing stress ?

Indeed.. For me, adding a drip system with timer has not only been a big time saver but reduced my BER to zero. Granted, what I am growing mostly in my container patio garden are cherries, sun gold, maglia rosa, and my main slicing, canning tomato -Bushsteak hybrid. The Bushsteak is a consistent strong producer. It also happens to be an early producing determinate which may be an asset in preventing BER. Avoiding stress (drying out) is the key.

[GrowingCoastal]

Black Bear said
I guess the nature of attempting to grow in containers will stress some varieties ... and out will pop some BER due to the container growing stress ?

Paul Robeson, container grown, is the most BER prone plant I have seen, so far. I have tossed at least 5 with it and see one more with a spot. Fortunately, it also seems a prolific producer and has many replacements. Such a waste of growing time and ferts. PR did well in the ground in a hot year on Gabriola, not far from you, Bear.

I know, does not answer your question but it may help someone else. I will try it again sometime, maybe, but in a larger pot.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by garyjr

Indeed.. For me, adding a drip system with timer has not only been a big time saver but reduced my BER to zero. Granted, what I am growing mostly in my container patio garden are cherries, sun gold, maglia rosa, and my main slicing, canning tomato -Bushsteak hybrid. The Bushsteak is a consistent strong producer. It also happens to be an early producing determinate which may be an asset in preventing BER. Avoiding stress (drying out) is the key.

I am so behind in my ..."drip installation "....looks like fall chores for 2018

growing season ....LOL

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by GrowingCoastal

Black Bear said
I guess the nature of attempting to grow in containers will stress some varieties ... and out will pop some BER due to the container growing stress ?

Paul Robeson, container grown, is the most BER prone plant I have seen, so far. I have tossed at least 5 with it and see one more with a spot. Fortunately, it also seems a prolific producer and has many replacements. Such a waste of growing time and ferts. PR did well in the ground in a hot year on Gabriola, not far from you, Bear.

I know, does not answer your question but it may help someone else. I will try it again sometime, maybe, but in a larger pot.

I am growing Boronia ...which is a PR/ new big dwarf development

in 7 gallon containers this year ......me loves it so far !


No BER !

[Shrinkrap]

I grew Boronia last year, in an Earthbox with one companion. .Drip on a timer, mostly 2 gallon per hour emitters, maybe 20 minutes twice a day. I found the adjustable 360 emitters even better, since I could adjust the amount of water over the seasons. No BER that I can recall.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by Shrinkrap

I grew Boronia last year, in an Earthbox with one companion. .Drip on a timer, mostly 2 gallon per hour emitters, maybe 20 minutes twice a day. I found the adjustable 360 emitters even better, since I could adjust the amount of water over the seasons. No BER that I can recall.

and fruit so many and heavy plants did fall over ..even with wire cages etc.

Just in 5 gallons last year .... ! Great taste etc. etc.

Now in 7 gallons this year ..

[Fritz77]

I'm also facing more problems with BER than I've ever had before. The first two ripe tomatoes had BER, I've noticed BER tomatoes on my Vorlon, Burracker's Favorite and Uluru Ochre plants.

I even have BER peppers.

I've been watering regularly, so hoping that this depends on a calcium deficiency I sprayed some calcium last week and will do it again in a week or so.