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Old October 3, 2008   #31
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From the above descriptions/recommendations, I'd like to try Gary O’Sena and Orange Minsk next year...

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None of the new ones I listed above, including Orange Minsk, will be commercially available next year. There has to be time to send some of them out for trial and for me that's TGS and Sandhill and possibly Victory, and while Glenn and Mike can turn around a variety and offer seeds in one season if all goes well, Linda at TGS can't b'c she has to subcontract out.

Right now I haven't decided which ones I will send out for trial but it's my intention to list most of the new ones in the 2009 SSE Yearbook if there are enough seeds.

The past couple of years I've offered limited seed of my new ones here at TV but it was a difficult year and I have no idea right now if there will be enough seed to offer here b'c my SSE obligations from a listing come first, as they always have.

Thanks for understanding.
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Old October 3, 2008   #32
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From the above descriptions/recommendations, I'd like to try Gary O’Sena and Orange Minsk next year...

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None of the new ones I listed above, including Orange Minsk, will be commercially available next year. There has to be time to send some of them out for trial and for me that's TGS and Sandhill and possibly Victory, and while Glenn and Mike can turn around a variety and offer seeds in one season if all goes well, Linda at TGS can't b'c she has to subcontract out.

Right now I haven't decided which ones I will send out for trial but it's my intention to list most of the new ones in the 2009 SSE Yearbook if there are enough seeds.

The past couple of years I've offered limited seed of my new ones here at TV but it was a difficult year and I have no idea right now if there will be enough seed to offer here b'c my SSE obligations from a listing come first, as they always have.

Thanks for understanding.
I too will be thinking of Gary O'Sena for next year and Orange Minsk might just have to wait fo 2010
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Old October 3, 2008   #33
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I understand Carolyn, I'll see Orange Minsk down the road somewhere...
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Old October 8, 2008   #34
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Old October 9, 2008   #35
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Carolyn, I'm very glad you like Orange Minsk because I've send its seeds with half of all seed requests I had in autumn 2007-spring 2008 time and had no feedback yet.

I believe this is a non-commercial variety because I bought original huge fruit of it from an old woman in a small local farmer market here in Minsk...
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Old October 9, 2008   #36
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Carolyn, I'm very glad you like Orange Minsk because I've send its seeds with half of all seed requests I had in autumn 2007-spring 2008 time and had no feedback yet.

I believe this is a non-commercial variety because I bought original huge fruit of it from an old woman in a small local farmer market here in Minsk...

And as soon as I have all the data I'll give you feedback on the others you sent. What I didn't grow bcday did but it was such an awful season that I didn't get fruits off maybe 1/3 of my plants. And for the ones I got no fruits from bcday sent me a box with most of those.

I'm waiting right now to see what seed production was from bcday and gardenmama so I know what I might be able to list in the SSE Yearbook and possibly offer a few here at Tville. Freda helped me save seed but I don't enough for any offers. Actually she took home 5 varieties to do the fermentations to help out and never added water and everything dried up. I did keep a smile on my face but you know what I felt like inside. All the other fermentations were done here at my home.

While I liked many of the others, and I grew mostly the non-commercial ones, I have to say that Orange Minsk was my favorite.
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Personally, I miss Orange 1. I had 2 seeds left this spring, and neither germinated. It could have been a contender;-(
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Personally, I miss Orange 1. I had 2 seeds left this spring, and neither germinated. It could have been a contender;-(
Bark, send me a PM with your address which I have somewhere and I'll send you some Orange-1 seeds. They are possibly from 2003 or 4 but I have lots of them so you can double sow if you wish and have all the plants you want.

Not a general offer folks. Bark once did me a huge favor having to do with access to a certain cacao content dark choclolate as one comes thru customs from Canada, so I owe him, big time. I won the bet I had with my orthopedic surgeon and that's hard to do.
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I can back anyone up who really wants Orange 1...I saved plenty of seeds 2 years ago...

Just pm an address.

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Best Mader in the Garden this year was Costoluto Genovese. Hands down!
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It's always interesting to read which varieties people enjoyed. Thanks.
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Old October 10, 2008   #42
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This year was first year in growing heirlooms so I really don't know very much yet. I did like the flavor of black krim in sauces. I had a very good flavor. It will be back. I did not have much luck this season but I have learned alot from you guys and hopefully next season will be better.
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Hey folks!

I haven't hardly posted here this year, been VERY busy....

I have just a few mainstays, and based on the last 3 years - Mortgage Lifter has assumed the role of main red in my garden.

So my "main" toms are ML, Cherokee P., and Jubilee/Gerties Gold.

I did plant out some (ahem) Kumato.... nondescript, smallish, but the flavor was incredible. I will attempt again next year.....

There seems to be a lot of new varieties everyone is talking about this year that I've never heard from. I go away for a season, and wham! - completely out of touch already!

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Dunkerdawg BW x Cherokee purple=DORA
Earl BW x Cherokee purple=Gary O`Sena
Whats the difference Thanks Bill
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Dunkerdawg BW x Cherokee purple=DORA
Earl BW x Cherokee purple=Gary O`Sena
Whats the difference Thanks Bill
http://www.kdcomm.net/~tomato/releases/

Bill, above are the varieties developed by Keith Mueller.

Earl's BW was not used. Nor was Earl's Faux.

One can do a cross and then make many selections from that one cross when speaking of the OP varieties above that can vary considerably, depending on which genes from which parent are in greatest concentration.
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