What exactly is "old time" tomato taste? - Page 4

Tormato · March 25, 2011

Camo,

I hear you on that elusive "old Jersey beefsteak bite". I've trialed hundreds of tomatoes, and have only found one that when you bite into it, it bites back. No blisters though, it's more like stinging nettles.

PM me if you'd like some seed.

Gary

eddie46 · March 25, 2011

Gary,
What kind was it?
Ed

cottonpicker · March 25, 2011

yesss, TORMATO...... don't TORMENT us any longer. Which variety is it?

LD

JoAnne · March 26, 2011

I love the tomatoes that I grow, but none of them seem to match my memory of my father's tomatoes from when I was a child. (And that includes the tomatoes that my 81 yr-old father grows today!)

Tormato · March 26, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by cottonpicker

yesss, TORMATO...... don't TORMENT us any longer. Which variety is it?

LD

I don't kn

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The seed came to me in 2007 labeled as Red Brandywine, with no other info. It is a pink RL beefsteak, so it was mislabeled.

I sometimes trial 100+ , new to me, pink RL beefsteaks a year, trying to identify it. But, no luck, so far.

No other pink beefsteaks have ever bitten back.

It is also the meatiest tomato I've ever seen. I've had a few 12 ouncers with only one locule, near the center of the fruit, with only a couple of seeds.

PM me if anyone would like seed.

Sorry cottonpicker,

TORMENTO

eddie46 · March 26, 2011

PM sent Thanks.
Ed

cottonpicker · March 26, 2011

tormato.... Thanks a lot for your answer. So, somebody played a "trick" on you? Too bad, but..... maybe not. Seems to have turned out pretty good as tomatoes go. Was it fairly productive?
LarryD

stormymater · March 27, 2011

Tormato - pm being sent - sounds like a humdinger! Late season I am guessing?

Tormato · March 28, 2011

Larry,

No, I don't think any trick was in play.

I expect about 96% of the varieties I receive to be true to type, regardless of source. Since some people don't know that clear skinned tomatoes are considered "pink", and yellow skinned tomatoes are considered "red", it would be easy for them to send it as a red.

Also, I've found "Brandywine" attached to several tomatoes, simply because the name sells.

Gary

beefyboy · March 28, 2011

I posted about that legendary tomato Brandywine and its name being used by everyone and it really dissapoints me. Even the orange types like Maylor Roths put Orange Brandywine after it and just look at the other pinks like Glicks, cowlicks, Brandywine OTV (red), and the list goes on. Common people will never know which one is the real Brandywine do to this and it is a shame in my opinion! I did not start thinking about this til last year when my brother in Illinois grew Brandywine and said it was only fair at best in flavor. I told him then that it might not even be the real true brandywine he was growing.

stormymater · March 28, 2011

Funny you should mention that beefboy - I have wondered the same about NC' s German Johnson. The ones I have sampled from Winston-Salem to Burlington to Raleigh have all been deeply unsatisfying to me - pale, mealy textured & flat (almost post refrigeration) tasting. But consistent. I was begged to grow some out this summer and am grudgingly doing so, partly to see if they grow "true" to the unappealing standard I am experienced or come from tastier stock outside NC (BC actually). Who knows - this may end up being a case in reverse from the Brandywine!

beefyboy · March 28, 2011

Hi Stormymater! I wish you the best in your growout. Have you ever tried Earls Faux?

stormymater · March 29, 2011

Yes & I liked it though it was one of the shyer producers in 2009.

beefyboy · March 29, 2011

Guess I got lucky here! it was my biggest along with Kosovo. Then again I am growing in earthboxes and also have a greenhouse again to get into Dec. And Jan. without getting beat by the cold down here. It has made all the difference so I can grow these heirlooms again.

Sun City Linda · March 30, 2011

Mr T - I seeded Earl of Edgecombe first time this year. It seems to be growing like a dwarf. Dark green, sturdy. I dont have Carolyns book anymore and Tat.....well, have no idea how to spell it the lady that has a database of nearly all does not have this one listed. Could you tell me if it should be growing sturdy like this or if I got wrong seed? Thanks, LInda

March 25, 2011	#48
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	yesss, TORMATO...... don't TORMENT us any longer. Which variety is it? LD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

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cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	tormato.... Thanks a lot for your answer. So, somebody played a "trick" on you? Too bad, but..... maybe not. Seems to have turned out pretty good as tomatoes go. Was it fairly productive? LarryD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

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March 25, 2011	#46
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	Camo, I hear you on that elusive "old Jersey beefsteak bite". I've trialed hundreds of tomatoes, and have only found one that when you bite into it, it bites back. No blisters though, it's more like stinging nettles. PM me if you'd like some seed. Gary

March 25, 2011	#47
eddie46 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW PA Posts: 160	Gary, What kind was it? Ed

March 26, 2011	#49
JoAnne Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 69	I love the tomatoes that I grow, but none of them seem to match my memory of my father's tomatoes from when I was a child. (And that includes the tomatoes that my 81 yr-old father grows today!)

March 27, 2011	#53
stormymater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pleasure Island, NC 8a Posts: 1,162	Tormato - pm being sent - sounds like a humdinger! Late season I am guessing?

March 28, 2011	#54
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	Larry, No, I don't think any trick was in play. I expect about 96% of the varieties I receive to be true to type, regardless of source. Since some people don't know that clear skinned tomatoes are considered "pink", and yellow skinned tomatoes are considered "red", it would be easy for them to send it as a red. Also, I've found "Brandywine" attached to several tomatoes, simply because the name sells. Gary

March 28, 2011	#55
beefyboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pt. Charlotte fl Posts: 330	I posted about that legendary tomato Brandywine and its name being used by everyone and it really dissapoints me. Even the orange types like Maylor Roths put Orange Brandywine after it and just look at the other pinks like Glicks, cowlicks, Brandywine OTV (red), and the list goes on. Common people will never know which one is the real Brandywine do to this and it is a shame in my opinion! I did not start thinking about this til last year when my brother in Illinois grew Brandywine and said it was only fair at best in flavor. I told him then that it might not even be the real true brandywine he was growing.

March 29, 2011	#58
stormymater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pleasure Island, NC 8a Posts: 1,162	Yes & I liked it though it was one of the shyer producers in 2009.

March 30, 2011	#60
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	Mr T - I seeded Earl of Edgecombe first time this year. It seems to be growing like a dwarf. Dark green, sturdy. I dont have Carolyns book anymore and Tat.....well, have no idea how to spell it the lady that has a database of nearly all does not have this one listed. Could you tell me if it should be growing sturdy like this or if I got wrong seed? Thanks, LInda