Croatian Brandywine Questions

[kenny_j]

Raybo, I planted 10 seeds and only got 3 to germinate, all RL. My fault, we were keeping the thermostat for the house around 65 to conserve energy, I had the trays over a heat duct and thought this might help, but not enough. Subsequent germinations with a heating pad turned out much better. Looks like its time to buy a heat mat. Still have a few BWC seeds, I will plant this week in hopes of getting a PL. Thanx again and good luck to all.

kj

[saltmarsh]

Hi Raybo, I planted 15 seeds on 3-27-2012 and 15 have germinated today. I'll let you know if any are potato leaf when they get their true leaves. And thanks again for the seed. Claud

[austinnhanasmom]

I germinated 4 seeds and had fast germination of 3. I think I tossed the 4th without giving it enough time.

At least on the three is PL, cuz it's planted in my garden as I type

Another one of the three is RL. The third seedling is MIA.

These two of three seedlings were incredibly strong, which is why both are planted in Colorado on April 2!! (with protection)

I'll bag blossoms from both seedlings, assuming our weather allows it...hail.

Thanks Ray for sharing the seeds!!

[rsg2001]

It's too early for me to determine whether any of mine are PL or RL. I planted 8 seeds on 3/25 and it's 10 days out, and thus far just two have emerged. I have a few seeds left and will probably plant those as well. I will post periodically as we go through the season.

[Douglas14]

I planted 6 Brandywine from Croatia seeds. 4 germinated. One of these got broken off early on(due to a mishap by a young niece). All 3 of the remaining plants are regular-leafed. Thanks for the seeds Ray!

[mrdoitall]

I started 5 seed from Brandywine from Croatia. All 5 seed germinated and where Reg. Leaf. I potted up the best 2 plants. Now you guys have me wanting to start 5 more seed to see if I can get a Potato Leaf plant. Okay, I will start them today.

[attml]

Out of the 4 seeds that I planted (that I received from kygreg) 3 germinated. Two are regular leaf and 1 is potato leaf. I plan on growing the potato leaf out to see how it does. I also will grow out the regular leaf as well of course!

Mark

[ljp]

The second planting resulted in 4 of 5 germinating, all regular leaf.

[travis]

Well, whatever they're supposed to be, two went out in the beds Easter Sunday. One regular leaf and one potato leaf. We'll see how they weather 34 - 37*F overnights the next couple of mornings.

[Tracydr]

Originally Posted by travis

This thread also shows how many "off-type" tomatoes from seed shares can occur, and get passed along from year to year as the "correct" type.

I'm not for a minute saying that Raybo's seed is "off-type," so nobody get their panties in a bunch just yet.

What I am saying is that there is a much greater likelihood for promulgating off-type tomatoes from seed shares (especially if from un-bagged sources) when the several individual growers only plant one, two, or three seeds, intending only to grow one or two plants.

Follow me?

You see, if an accidental cross happens, the recessive genes will show up in the F2 or F3 seeds. But if you only plant two or three seeds, you stand a higher chance of perpetuating the recessive traits for yet another year, because they might be masked by the dominant traits in those two sprouts, but from still segregating germplasm.

So, what I'm saying is that if you only plant two or three seeds from what you think should be a regular leaf red, and unknowingly they are F2 or F3s from an accidental outcross to a potato leaf pink, and you're looking for regular leaf red and you get two regular leaf sprouts, and in the end you get red tomatoes, you may have unknowingly grown an off-type the seeds from which could still throw a potato leaf pink next year from the seeds you pass along to the next fellow.

Just something to ponder. And again, I'm not even assuming that the potato leaf seedlings in this seed share from Raybo are indicative of a "wrong type," because y'all will remember that Raybo said he saw potato leaf types in the transplants he obtained from the Master Gardener's group. So, who really knows what the archtype is to begin with?

I don't believe this is an off-type. This is a recessive, potatoe leaf gene, occurring at 25%. If we save the potato leaf plants, we can easily ( in one generation, since it's recessive) have potato leaf BrandyWine From Croatia tomatoes. It could be a cross, but it could just as easily be a recessive gene.
Now I wish I hadn't saved this variety until next season. This is very exciting! I love mysteries and new varieties. And, I probably won't be able to do it in the fall, as I'm doing all dwarfed, which means I'll have to wait until next spring.

[sicily]

All my three seeds germinated and they are all regular leaf. The plants are all strong and they look great!!! I'm very excited about this tomato, Thanks again Raybo!

[jamserg]

Mine are all regular leaf too. All germinated. Thanks, Raybo

[afrance30]

2 of 2 germinated, both regular leaf

[saltmarsh]

15 of 15 germinated, all are growing normally and all are regular leaf. Claud

[MarinaRussian]

Originally Posted by rnewste

I just sent a pack of BFC seeds to "Marina" in Russia yesterday, so the reporting database including packs previously sent to England, Germany, Ukraine, Slovenia, and elsewhere around the world should be pretty interesting this year.

Raybo

Hi Ray! Your seeds have arrived. I'm really tempted to sow them, but I'm not sure that the plants will have time to set fruit.

Thank you very much, Ray!!!

Marina