Huerto Urbano Tijuanense 2016 - Page 40

korney19 · October 14, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Mark,I can't really go into all of this on line b/c the answer back from I llex is complicated and also private.

The old man is holding one truss in each hand,neither of them are the Ribera seeds that I was sent.

The left one may be en ramo, even more complicated since Catalan Spanish is not the same as non Catalan.

No,I have no seeds for en-ramo, but hope to in the near future.

I said above that I would transmit the info that I llex sent me to those who actually grew Ribera,which I did last night.

Ribera is still a multiflora but looks nothing like what the old man is holding. I had several seed producers who were growing Ribera and the description originally were large beefsteaks,no longer true.

So it was important for me to get back to those who were doing seed production since 2/3 are SSE listed members and have a deadline to meet for the 2017 Yearbook.

Carolyn

I took Gerardo's post to mean that the smaller of the 2 in the pic ("100 in his left hand...") is 100 en ramo or whatever, and that what's in the man's right hand, Gerardo did not get any ribbing like those pictured ("Right hand, I did not get any of those ribs.")

Which brings us back to the question of the year: What is the variety the man is holding in his right hand? Is it a secret? an anomaly?

Gerardo · October 15, 2016

I recognize the ones in his left hand, yes indeed. The ones in his right hand, none of the three "De Colgar" I grew are a match for those, based on ribbing and size.

I'm going through a few more, if I bump into the anomaly I'll definitely announce it.

I'll try to be less cryptic in my future posts.

Great Friday to all!

korney19 · October 15, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerardo

I recognize the ones in his left hand, yes indeed. The ones in his right hand, none of the three "De Colgar" I grew are a match for those, based on ribbing and size.

I'm going through a few more, if I bump into the anomaly I'll definitely announce it.

I'll try to be less cryptic in my future posts.

Great Friday to all!

Thanks for posting Gerardo!

**carolyn137** · October 16, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by korney19

Thanks for posting Gerardo!

Mark,I just realized that Ilex had discussed the Ribera issue in detail in the other thread,it does get confusing.

Gerarldo has been growing out quite a few from Ilex that I sent him, including Ribera,which is why I said in the other thread I was putting 3 folks on a group em,and did, and we are still addressing some issues of this and that with some varieties, which is why Gerardo said what he did above.

I just Pmed someone else about the ripe color of what he got with a a variety and on and on it goes.

I missed some of the posts in the other thread where I lex explained about Ribera since I had a deadline to meet re getting my tax stuff in.

There is something I'd like your opinion about, re a link,it has nothing to do with anyone except you and me. You've said that the PM system doesn't work for you is that still true,and surely you still have my em addy,but if not,it's

cmale@aol.com

Please e-mail me.

Carolyn

Gerardo · October 27, 2016

Middle row doing well. 9 slots on the tube and converted H2O containers with drip irrigation. Bamboo supports seem to be doing the job well.
middle row.jpg

This is what one end of this middle row looks like, Zluta kytice stretching in the clay pot, Pruden's Purple on the left impressing with beautiful flowers. On the right Noire Charbonneuse
zluta.jpg

And the other end of this row has an even larger clay pot with a CRW cage. This particular Terhune Competition RL has been growing in a 5 gal container for almost 8 months now, and its latest rebirth after being trimmed down completely has taken over the neighboring Lavender Lake's CRW cage.
Terhune Comp RL.jpg
8 month old plant staging comeback.jpg

Mikhalych being its usual self, I've lost quite a few to TSWV
mikhalych.jpg

Copper River, no pruning this time
copper river.jpg

More greenies
greenies.jpg

Future pain
pain 7potBS.jpg

efisakov · October 27, 2016

Nice pictures, Gerardo. Thank you for sharing. Your hard work is paying off.

ginger2778 · October 27, 2016

I love your photos. I am growing several of these, some are seeds from you so its great to see what they look like. Nice work!

Gerardo · October 27, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by efisakov

Nice pictures, Gerardo. Thank you for sharing. Your hard work is paying off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I love your photos. I am growing several of these, some are seeds from you so its great to see what they look like. Nice work!

Thanks to two of my favorite ladies.

in the next post I'll show some of the ones you sent me Marsha: Winsall, Amazon Choc, Elgin Pink, et al.

ginger2778 · October 27, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerardo

Thanks to two of my favorite ladies.

in the next post I'll show some of the ones you sent me Marsha: Winsall, Amazon Choc, Elgin Pink, et al.

I can't wait!

Gerardo · October 29, 2016

Enemies:
enemy.jpg
enemy 2.jpg

Cukes next to corn
cukes next to corn.jpg

two Elgin Pink in the middle w CRW cage, + greenies

elgin pink.jpg
elgin pink2.jpg
elgin pink3.jpg
elgin pink4.jpg

rev michael keyes, heat wave hindered fruit set
rev michael keyes.jpg
rev michael keyes 2.jpg
rev michael keyes 3.jpg

zluta
zluta kytice inflorescen.jpg

koroleva
koroleva.jpg

Worth1 · October 29, 2016

Lovely.
Worth

ginger2778 · October 29, 2016

Gerardo, what is the black fly with the long elliptical wings in the first photo? I have that, I think I need an ID.

Gerardo · October 29, 2016

Gracias Worth!

M: not sure. I use it as my indicator bug, if it's around then the other guys are too. From the wings and colors I think it might be a Sciarid spp, definitely not S. stagnalis. They are tiny so hard to really ID.

Whiteflies, thrips and these guys were having a small party. I shut it down early this AM with delta-neem-daconil combo. Ran out of DE so time to order up again.

Any reqs on food grade DE?

efisakov · October 30, 2016

Gerardo, I use DE from Lowe's store, brand name is Garden Safe. It is 4 pound bag for about $9.
Sorry you have to deal with trips.

A week ago I picked my last green Elgin pink. They are really great tasting fruits. Thanks to Marsha (seeds were from her), she is so generous.

ginger2778 · October 30, 2016

Gerardo, the winged black fly Is a winged black aphid. Soapy water kills it.

October 27, 2016	#590
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	Lots of green, decent fruit set Middle row doing well. 9 slots on the tube and converted H2O containers with drip irrigation. Bamboo supports seem to be doing the job well. middle row.jpg This is what one end of this middle row looks like, Zluta kytice stretching in the clay pot, Pruden's Purple on the left impressing with beautiful flowers. On the right Noire Charbonneuse zluta.jpg And the other end of this row has an even larger clay pot with a CRW cage. This particular Terhune Competition RL has been growing in a 5 gal container for almost 8 months now, and its latest rebirth after being trimmed down completely has taken over the neighboring Lavender Lake's CRW cage. Terhune Comp RL.jpg 8 month old plant staging comeback.jpg Mikhalych being its usual self, I've lost quite a few to TSWV mikhalych.jpg Copper River, no pruning this time copper river.jpg More greenies greenies.jpg Future pain pain 7potBS.jpg Last edited by Gerardo; October 27, 2016 at 05:45 PM.

October 27, 2016	#591
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Nice pictures, Gerardo. Thank you for sharing. Your hard work is paying off. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

October 30, 2016	#599
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Gerardo, I use DE from Lowe's store, brand name is Garden Safe. It is 4 pound bag for about $9. Sorry you have to deal with trips. A week ago I picked my last green Elgin pink. They are really great tasting fruits. Thanks to Marsha (seeds were from her), she is so generous. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!” Last edited by efisakov; October 30, 2016 at 10:39 AM.

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October 15, 2016	#587
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	I recognize the ones in his left hand, yes indeed. The ones in his right hand, none of the three "De Colgar" I grew are a match for those, based on ribbing and size. I'm going through a few more, if I bump into the anomaly I'll definitely announce it. I'll try to be less cryptic in my future posts. Great Friday to all!

October 27, 2016	#592
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	I love your photos. I am growing several of these, some are seeds from you so its great to see what they look like. Nice work!

October 29, 2016	#595
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	Enemies: enemy.jpg enemy 2.jpg Cukes next to corn cukes next to corn.jpg two Elgin Pink in the middle w CRW cage, + greenies elgin pink.jpg elgin pink2.jpg elgin pink3.jpg elgin pink4.jpg rev michael keyes, heat wave hindered fruit set rev michael keyes.jpg rev michael keyes 2.jpg rev michael keyes 3.jpg zluta zluta kytice inflorescen.jpg koroleva koroleva.jpg

October 29, 2016	#596
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Lovely. Worth

October 29, 2016	#597
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Gerardo, what is the black fly with the long elliptical wings in the first photo? I have that, I think I need an ID.

October 29, 2016	#598
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	Gracias Worth! M: not sure. I use it as my indicator bug, if it's around then the other guys are too. From the wings and colors I think it might be a Sciarid spp, definitely not S. stagnalis. They are tiny so hard to really ID. Whiteflies, thrips and these guys were having a small party. I shut it down early this AM with delta-neem-daconil combo. Ran out of DE so time to order up again. Any reqs on food grade DE?

October 30, 2016	#600
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Gerardo, the winged black fly Is a winged black aphid. Soapy water kills it.