Orange Minsk

[montanamato]

Carolyn....

I can't find the original Danko coin envelope, so I assume these are from the second padded mailing...Anyway it is early to say what is done germinating , I just wanted to post the extreme turn around in the Orange Minsk for me...
There is one more Danko sprouting since I emailed earlier, and 2 is plenty for me to save seed from...
I had Pervaya Lyubov from my first request and it germinated one seedling, and I did not try the new seed.

I envy the dark chocolate, as I have been munching my childrens easter hunt candy from school...Really horrid, waxy stuff that should be outlawed...

Jeanne

[BrianS]

Thanks for the info Carolyn. It will be interesting to see what it becomes

[travis]

Stray seeds are even more likely the cause when planting numerous varieties in multi-cell trays. Happens frequently in fact.

Sometimes one might accidentally drop a seed as the hand moves over the tray on its way to the target cell. Sometimes a seed will hop out of the fingers and land in the wrong cell. Sometimes when one waters or sprays the top of the starter medium a seed will float from one cell to another. Sometimes when one removes the plastic wrap from atop the tray an unsprouted or barely sprouted seed will stick to the wrap and then drop off into another cell. On and on. Many ways for a potato leaf seed to find its way into a regular leaf starter cell.

In fact, it happened to me this year. A potato leaf seedling was right there in a group of four cells labelled Golden Cherokee and having numerous correct regular leaf seedlings. I thought I might have something special until I looked at the neighboring cells and realized they were populated with Hillbilly Potato Leaf seedlings. Gee whiz. Even if that PL seedling were a mutation, that's going to be a hard one to verify.

[rxkeith]

planted april 1st, and mostly up within 4 days

orange minsk 2/4
ceman 2/4
ludmilas pink heart 3/4
ludmilas red plum 2/4
indiana red 0/4

i planted the last 2 indiana red seeds on 4/8. still waiting. c'mon red.
4/13 1 indiana red now up. looking kinda weak, but its a start

keith

[Suze]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

If you want to fool around with that PL plant and try to figure out what might be the pollen parent the other PL's I grew this past season were:

Moravsky Div
Lincoln-Adams
Pervaya Lyubov ( First Love)
Pozhar

...... and from the dwarf project:

Summertime Gold F5
Summertime Green F5

Summertime Green s/b RL, although it was still occasionally giving a PL seedlng here and there in earlier gens. So, it likely wouldn't have been a cross with that unless you (or the person who grew plants for you) selected for PL seedlings and that's what you planted in your garden.

[carolyn137]

Suze, you know who sent me 5 plants of the new dwarf varieties just so I could see where things were at and yes, I guess I got a PL one b/c the plants were very very small when I got them, but I babied them, rather Freda did.

And no, I have no intention of distributing seed back to the project or anywheres else and I haven't been a project member anyway.

it was just a look see on project progress and actually I was quite impressed with what I saw and ate.

I had Summertime Green and Summertime Gold and Wild Fred , but Sweet Sue and Emerald didn't make it in the lousy cold rainy so called summer we had here last year.

Thanks for the heads up anyway.

I happen to think that this dwarf project has been a huge success and I look forward to the time when seeds of the first stable ones will be available to all through commercial sources or otherwise.

[Wi-sunflower]

I just thought I would add a recent goofy find I saw Sunday.

For many of my trades where only a few seeds were sent, I only plucked the plant or 2 that germinated in the 18 and put the pack back in a flat, just in case something else came up later.

Well the Dr Carolyn Pink that I got from Carolyn only germinated 1 when I transplanted about 2 weeks ago. Yesterday that pack had 4 more good seedlings and 2 more trying.

Apearently they didn't like my nice warm germinating room in the house but did better out in the greenhouse where it can get rather cold at nite. (mid to upper 40*s) Go figure.

Carol

[montanamato]

Carol....I find that happens frequentl.....Often, after I put the seedlings under lights I keep getting germination....It is almost like the heat mat pops up the easy germinators and the others take their time with much cooler conditions...I sometimes reuse my seedling mix later in the spring for starting cukes, squash, flowers etc....I can't tell you how many tomato seedlings have sprouted in those containers...I can bet most of those seeds were not barely covered with mix, and made quite a jouney to the surface...

Jeanne

[Wi-sunflower]

I do too, tho usually not to the degree that I saw with this pot. The original germination was given at least 2x the time I usually give my flats. Then it went out to the greenhouse for about a week before getting transplanted. Now it's been 2-3 weeks since and these sprouts came up just in the last couple of days.

When transplanting there will usually be 2 or 3 "sizes" of transplants indicating the differing germination times. But usually not over a month apart.

Yah I will sometimes have a tomato out of place in something else. Tomato seeds are quite resiliant.

Did you ever wonder why you might get tomato seedlings in your lawn ?? If you used Milorganite or some similar product on your lawn that's why. It's the seeds that went thru somebody and thru the sewerage process and survived to grow in the lawn. No kidding. I knew people that worked there and that's what they told me.

Carol

[carolyn137]

Just a quick post to note that I intend to post the results of the tomato experiemnt re crushed seeds that Martha and BCday did with seeds I sent them.

The results were interesting and quite conclusive. I'll start a new thread for those results and hope to get to it today b'c it's been wiggy around here, trust me.

[montanamato]

Not to complicate the thread , but I ended up with 7 Pozhar seedlings, and can now verify leaf type...All of mine are regular leaf.

Jeanne

[bcday]

My apologies for not chiming in sooner, I just now read the earlier posts about Pozhar in this thread. My Pozhar plants were indeed regular leaf as Andrey says they should be. When I checked the draft of Carolyn's writeup in November I said then that the proposed Pozhar blurb didn't give the foliage type and it's RL. But I just looked in the 2009 Yearbook and it does say potato leaf there, which isn't correct for what I grew. The seeds I sent Carolyn should all grow into regular leaf plants.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by bcday

My apologies for not chiming in sooner, I just now read the earlier posts about Pozhar in this thread. My Pozhar plants were indeed regular leaf as Andrey says they should be. When I checked the draft of Carolyn's writeup in November I said then that the proposed Pozhar blurb didn't give the foliage type and it's RL. But I just looked in the 2009 Yearbook and it does say potato leaf there, which isn't correct for what I grew. The seeds I sent Carolyn should all grow into regular leaf plants.

Probably a mixup at my end between Freda and myself on leaf form.

I'll change it for the next SSE listings.

Sorry.

And have run out of time tonight to post those germination results re crushed seeds. I'm sure I can do it tomorrow and wasn't it Scarlett who always said something like....tomorrow is another day?

[sic transit gloria]

Final germination from Carolyn:

Indiana Red (planted all seeds): Nil
Chapman (planted all seeds): Nil
Orange Minsk (planted all seeds): 1 plant, and it germinated very late, but one plant is all I need!
Tennessee Britches: Several plants
Russian Bogatyr: A couple of plants

Thanks.

[TZ-OH6]

Here is my germination report after 10 days

Orange Minsk --2/5
Red Penna --1/5
Wess --1/5
Chapman --1/5
Prue 0/5

This was pretty close to the germination rate Carolyn suggested on the envelopes.