Liz Birt?

[skiezo]

Got a few plants of these that are bearing good size fruit and plenty of them.
I just am not sure about the taste tho. They are a bit tart and seem a bit more acidic
them some others.
What do other people think of the taste of these?
I like a tomato more on the sweet side of the taste spectrum.
They do make good salsa that is a bit darker and lots of juice.

Brian

[Timmah!]

You can buy Dr. Male's book: 100 HEIRLOOM TOMATOES FOR THE AMERICAN GARDEN for a fine desription of tomatoes with accompanying descriptions of flavor, etc. Also has additional information about growing & saving seed, history...

You can also go to www.tatianastomatobase.com for a fine source of tomato descriptions.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Timmah!

You can buy Dr. Male's book: 100 HEIRLOOM TOMATOES FOR THE AMERICAN GARDEN for a fine desription of tomatoes with accompanying descriptions of flavor, etc. Also has additional information about growing & saving seed, history...

You can also go to www.tatianastomatobase.com for a fine source of tomato descriptions.

But you won't find Liz Birt descibed in Carolyn's book b'c her book was published before Keith Mueller ever bred Liz Birt and she herself hasn't grow it so has no personal experience with it.

I'm sure some others here can contribute their opinions about Liz as well as the other ones that Keith bred that all came from the same initial cross.

[Timmah!]

And how would you know?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Timmah!

And how would you know?

If you're referring to me , how would I know what?

[Timmah!]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

If you're referring to me , how would I know what?

I was being silly about how you would know what was in your book, because you had referred to yourself in the 3rd person, as if it were another person.

Nevermind; had to be there, in the moment & be me all coincidentally for it to be amusing.

[ContainerTed]

I have heard that this tomato is a Brandywine cross. I could be wrong there.

I've grown it for two consecutive years and find that it is ever bit as good as Cherokee Purple or Indian Stripe in both its production and its taste. I highly recommend it as the T on a BLT. It's sweet and has that old fashioned zing on the end but not too much zing.

Ted

[carolyn137]

OK, time to link to the varieties that Keith Mueller has bred, which also includes Liz Birt:

http://www.kdcomm.net/~tomato/releases/

And if some of you don't know Keith's site, from which the above page was taken, you should, b'c it's excellent. Look around and you'll find lots of information and links from how to make crosses to how to make selections from them to an OP state, some basic tomato genetics, all about the various species and much much more.

http://www.kdcomm.net/%7Etomato/index.html

[AZRuss]

Try Liz Birt's sibling, Gary'O Sena (that's the correct spelling, no matter what you see elsewhere). Great tasting tomato.

[rnewste]

Russ,

If you could only grow one, which one would you recommend?

Raybo

[AZRuss]

You mean Liz Birt or Gary'O? Actually I've never tried Liz Birt but the OP doesn't like it, so I suggested Gary'O. I love the flavor of Gary'O, but it doesn't seem to like the AZ desert as much as some others. Super low production and slow growth. I've read that Gary'O Sena appears to have some heat set qualities, but I have not observed that.

[skiezo]

The liz birt was not my pick. It was a sub. for one that Darrel was out of. He suggested it
to me as a replacement for Soldacki. Nothing wrong with the Liz, I just prefer a sweeter tomato. Love my polish ellis and MR. stripey and my sungold are like candy. I also have a
tomato that my grandmother brought over from Poland that is sweet and meaty with just enough acid in the end. I will be sending seeds from that to a few people to see what they think of it.

Brian

[shlacm]

Timmah, I thought it was funny!

[camochef]

I've grown Gary O'Sena, and Dora last year and brought them back again this year along with Bear Creek (which got destoyed last year), and Liz Birt.
So far, Liz Birt is the best tasting of the group. It's also been the largest. I found the inital taste somewhat tart or as others described it ...zippy. As one gets closer to the shoulders the taste gets sweeter. Not a great deal, but a noticable difference.
In all fairness I haven't tasted Bear Creek yet although I have a few in the kitchen, will move it to the top of the list for taste testing.
You can find my taste tests on that other site, I plan to do a year in review on this one come the end of the season. Also Liz Birt is pink as is Dora, while Bear Creek is Dark and Gary O' is somewhere in between, yet all are Brandywine/Cherokee Purple crosses.

[dice]

Skiezo, from your description, you would probably like Earl's Faux
and Pale Perfect Purple.