Bloody Butcher

peppereater · June 14, 2006

My BB was the 4th or 5th variety to start setting fruit, but now it's kickin' butt! I counted eleven fruits on it, and the way it's going, it'll have numerous fruit clusters on it soon. It's far outperforming everything else, oddly enough even a BB plant next to it. The heat has shut down most of my plants, but this one is not minding it. The only other plant that's setting much fruit is a Black Plum. I'm going to save seed from this BB in case it's genetically superior to the rest of the purchased seed it came from. How's the flavor of BB? Sounds like it should be pretty good.

barkeater · June 14, 2006

Bloody Butcher was my first to flower and first to fruit - exactly a week ago. As of yesterday, none of the other 36 varieties have set fruit yet. First time I've grown BB.

Rena · June 14, 2006

I believe there was some "talk" that Bloody Butcher was Stupice. I am unsure as I have yet to grow them side by side. Does it look like Stupice? Oh and I love Black plum. It does awesome in the heat and really takes abuse.

ddsack · June 15, 2006

I did grow a plant of BB and Stupice side by side last year, and they were very similar. The Stupice was a little earlier, and the BB was slightly taller and rangier and had a few more tomatoes. But since I had just the two plants, it could have been the normal variation between any two plants of the same type. I only grow the Stupice for it's earliest tomatoes, so I doubt I'll grow BB again, since for me, it came in second in the early column. I have Kimberly and Stupice this year, and so far, Stupice has larger green tomatoes than Kimberly. But we'll see which turns red first.

biermaster · June 15, 2006

I started Stupice 1st then 10 days later found BB which I started the same way as the other. I transplanted in to same size and number of containers (3)each. The Stupice was 1st to flower, set on and the ripen but BB has caught up to it and passed it in the number of tomatoes on the plants. I get 1 tom per stupice every 3 day but the BB is puttin out 1 each day. (per plant) BB now has more folage and is more lanky but is putting on more than Stupice. I do not notice a differance in taste, size is similar but BB is producing better. BB puts out more flowers and tom's on the stem. Heat in Tucson has only made the BB put out more folage.

peppereater · June 16, 2006

I need to do some research on Stupice. I may try to grow some side by side with BB next year.

**carolyn137** · June 18, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMISSCOLO

I believe there was some "talk" that Bloody Butcher was Stupice. I am unsure as I have yet to grow them side by side. Does it look like Stupice?

Stupice was bred in Czechoslovakia by an unknown breeder for commercial purposes.

Bloody Butcher was bred and named by a seed company in Holland who also released Summer Cider, Brown Berry, Cream Sausage, Vintage Wine and others. And all of those just in the past several years while Stupice, all four versions of it, were around long before that.

Earl · June 18, 2006

I grew both one year, near identical as far as I could tell. They were to prolific. :-) Made a lot of juice. I quit eating them fresh once the main season crop arrived.

peppereater · June 18, 2006

BB and Black Plum are both early and heat tolerant for me, but I'm sad to say I'm getting BER on Black Plum already, but it's in a container. I'm thnking of crossing BB and BP to see what happens. I've never cross-pollinated or saved seed before, but I'm thinking of giving that a go...

barkeater · June 20, 2006

Three weeks in the ground now, and Bloody Butcher is still way ahead of the other 37 varieties I'm growing. It has 4 tomatoes on about the size of a grape tomato now, while the closest to it any of the others are still have the dead flowers stuck to the fruit. And that is a short list - Gregori Altai, Campbells 1327, Brandywine, Aunt Gerties Gold, Yellow Brandywine.

June 14, 2006	#1
peppereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 99	Bloody Butcher My BB was the 4th or 5th variety to start setting fruit, but now it's kickin' butt! I counted eleven fruits on it, and the way it's going, it'll have numerous fruit clusters on it soon. It's far outperforming everything else, oddly enough even a BB plant next to it. The heat has shut down most of my plants, but this one is not minding it. The only other plant that's setting much fruit is a Black Plum. I'm going to save seed from this BB in case it's genetically superior to the rest of the purchased seed it came from. How's the flavor of BB? Sounds like it should be pretty good. __________________ Dave

June 15, 2006	#5
biermaster Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tucson,Az Posts: 58	Differance I started Stupice 1st then 10 days later found BB which I started the same way as the other. I transplanted in to same size and number of containers (3)each. The Stupice was 1st to flower, set on and the ripen but BB has caught up to it and passed it in the number of tomatoes on the plants. I get 1 tom per stupice every 3 day but the BB is puttin out 1 each day. (per plant) BB now has more folage and is more lanky but is putting on more than Stupice. I do not notice a differance in taste, size is similar but BB is producing better. BB puts out more flowers and tom's on the stem. Heat in Tucson has only made the BB put out more folage. __________________ Freedom doesn't mean you can do as you want but to do what is "right"

June 16, 2006	#6
peppereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 99	I need to do some research on Stupice. I may try to grow some side by side with BB next year. __________________ Dave

June 18, 2006	#9
peppereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 99	BB and Black Plum are both early and heat tolerant for me, but I'm sad to say I'm getting BER on Black Plum already, but it's in a container. I'm thnking of crossing BB and BP to see what happens. I've never cross-pollinated or saved seed before, but I'm thinking of giving that a go... __________________ Dave

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June 14, 2006	#2
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	Bloody Butcher was my first to flower and first to fruit - exactly a week ago. As of yesterday, none of the other 36 varieties have set fruit yet. First time I've grown BB.

June 14, 2006	#3
Rena Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Warm Springs, GA Posts: 1,421	I believe there was some "talk" that Bloody Butcher was Stupice. I am unsure as I have yet to grow them side by side. Does it look like Stupice? Oh and I love Black plum. It does awesome in the heat and really takes abuse.

June 15, 2006	#4
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	I did grow a plant of BB and Stupice side by side last year, and they were very similar. The Stupice was a little earlier, and the BB was slightly taller and rangier and had a few more tomatoes. But since I had just the two plants, it could have been the normal variation between any two plants of the same type. I only grow the Stupice for it's earliest tomatoes, so I doubt I'll grow BB again, since for me, it came in second in the early column. I have Kimberly and Stupice this year, and so far, Stupice has larger green tomatoes than Kimberly. But we'll see which turns red first.

June 18, 2006	#8
Earl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,278	I grew both one year, near identical as far as I could tell. They were to prolific. :-) Made a lot of juice. I quit eating them fresh once the main season crop arrived.

June 20, 2006	#10
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	Three weeks in the ground now, and Bloody Butcher is still way ahead of the other 37 varieties I'm growing. It has 4 tomatoes on about the size of a grape tomato now, while the closest to it any of the others are still have the dead flowers stuck to the fruit. And that is a short list - Gregori Altai, Campbells 1327, Brandywine, Aunt Gerties Gold, Yellow Brandywine.