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December 28, 2010 | #1 |
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Another Heirloom Sweet Potato patented
The variety Mahan or Mahon is an old heirloom variety. I have also discovered a sweetpotato here in Oklahoma that has been grown by a man for over 30 years which also appears to be identical to mahon.
Another variety that received a patent was "Stokes Purple" which I don't think is a "New and Distinctive" variety as there was no breeding work on it whatsoever. I hate it when this kind of thing happens! Patents are out of control http://www.freepatentsonline.com/PP20666.html mahon http://www.freepatentsonline.com/PP17976.html stokes Purple
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December 28, 2010 | #2 |
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I agree the business of patenting or registering varieties of seeds is getting out of control
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December 28, 2010 | #3 |
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I think this is ridiculous also. If you actually work on breeding and create something new, ok, I understand wanting to make money from your hard work, but to patent plants like this is very unethical.
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December 28, 2010 | #4 |
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Did you note the name of the person who patented Mahon?
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December 29, 2010 | #5 |
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http://www.medicinenet.com/psoriasis...ow/article.htm
Sweet potato plant named ‘Mahon Yam’ United States Patent PP20666 Quote:
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Mahon, John A. (310 Third St., Cheraw, SC, US) Application Number: 12/217597 Publication Date: 01/19/2010 Filing Date: 07/07/2008 Export Citation: Click for automatic bibliography generation Primary Class: PLT/256 International Classes: A01H5/00 Field of Search: PLT/258, PLT/256 View Patent Images: Download PDF PP20666 [IMG]file:///C:/Users/THOSWA%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.jpg[/IMG] PDF help http://www.freepatentsonline.com/PP20666.pdf |
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December 29, 2010 | #7 |
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Anyone know if Mr. Mahon ever sold slips for this so-called variety, before applying for the patent?
If anyone has record of pre-patent sales, it should be fairly easy to get that one thrown out. |
December 29, 2010 | #8 |
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Mahon was available through South Carolina Crop Improvement and through a few other sources over the years.
http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/seed/heirloom.htm This link no longer has it listed, but a couple of years ago, it was included. This is from the 2007 listing: Mahon Sweet Potato - We are happy to offer plant of this "personal favorite" HEIRLOOM grown by Dr. Bradshaw. Very vigorous grower and very productive. A rose-colored skin covers rich orange flesh. While there may be slight variability in the flesh color, the flesh is always richly sweet and creamy with very few strings. Many growers have reported white tail deer select other sweet potato varieties to browse, leaving the Mahon potatoes with little damage. I would be interested in finding out if Mr. Mahon is the original source of the sweetpotato in question. This patent may be a legitimate effort to prevent someone else from stealing a plant variety. In other words, the patent is to protect something that was at risk of being nicked by one of the big companies. On the other hand, it could just be opportunism. DarJones |
December 29, 2010 | #9 |
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The problem is, it's too late now...once it has been sold, all bets are off. It shouldn't have been granted a patent in the first place.
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December 29, 2010 | #10 |
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Many varieties are being selected through meristem culture. A case in point is with the Russet Norkotah variety of potato. Many clones are reselected for bigger vines and more yield. Those are highly protected lines. Therefore selections within a variety are more important than the original clone. At one time it was near impossible for one to get Norkotah 3, now it is the about the only one some seed producers sell as certified potatoes.
I suspect that many old time varieties of all types of fruits and vegetables will be protected this way. Those who wish to spend the money will control the industry. |
December 29, 2010 | #11 |
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So this guy takes Mahon into a tissue culture lab and cleans it up getting rid of virus and mycoplasma. Then he patents the resulting cultivar? That sounds pretty fishy to me. It leaves the door open to anyone doing meristem culture claiming that a cleaned up clone is patentable.
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December 29, 2010 | #12 |
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Time to nip it in the bud...patent trolls are patent trolls, no matter where they are found.
We need to educate a few folks on basic botany...maybe some rudimentary genetics, too...and it looks like the USPO needs to be pretty darn high on that list. Followed by most US justices (especially Circuit Court ones). |
December 29, 2010 | #13 |
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I received my Mahon from SC WI R. who received it from Dr Bradshaw, who apparently found it and named it several years ago. I have it listed on my website as Mahan, but will probably change it to Bradshaw as some other people have done, so as not to risk Confrontation
At about the same time I received an unknown heirloom variety from an older gentleman here in Oklahoma that had grown his variety for over 30 years, he received it from a neighbor that had grown it years before that. After growing it out, I found it to be identical to Mahon. The description in the patent describes the variety I have (and I must say) is one great tasting sweetpotato..BUT this "new" Mahon it is NOT a new and distinctive cultivar as the Patent says! Another variety that was awarded a patent was the "Stokes Purple" another variety that was apparently cleaned up by tissue culture.
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December 29, 2010 | #14 |
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Anyone wishing to buy,grow and sell the Heirloom Mahon obviously would still be able to,the problem is there's such a gray area between the tissue cultured Mahon and the heirloom that it would be so difficult to monitor just who's growing what.
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occurred long before the patent application was applied, and thus the patent is not valid. Of course, if what was patented is not the same as what you have, then you don't have anything to worry about! I suspect if you've got good documentation that dates your receipt of the variety, the patent holder will probably agree that what you have is "different" rather than admit their patent is not valid. Win-win for you. Lee
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