Discussion forum for environmentally-friendly alternatives to replace synthetic chemicals and fertilizers.
|
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 |
Tomatoville® Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
|
![]()
Anyone see a reason why I cannot use both as a dip when I plant out tomorrow?
__________________
Michael |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, CA
Posts: 4,064
|
![]()
Hi Michael,
I was just pondering the same question yesterday, when I did the initial drench on the plants with Excelurator. I've decided (without any scientific basis) to wait a week between treatment with the Great White myco. As the Excelurator is derived from Ammonium Nitrate and Potassium Hydroxide, I was concerned about how these compounds would interact with the Great White mycos and beneficial bacteria. Maybe we have a Chemist here at TV who can enlighten us on the subject. Raybo ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Tomatoville® Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
|
![]()
Ray
Your son, who is very knowledgeable about these matters, as you know, I think told me it was ok to do so. But it was the last of many questions I asked him, I was in a hurry to get back to my conference, and I am not sure he told me it was ok.
__________________
Michael |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, CA
Posts: 4,064
|
![]()
Michael,
Just placed a call to Jim's Store - - but they are closed. Left a VM on his cell. Will let you know his recommendation when he calls me back. Raybo ![]() p.s. I had forgotten to tell him before you visited yesterday that I had offered the 10% special discount if you used the code "EarthTainer". We both got a laugh out of it. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Tomatoville® Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
|
![]()
Ray:
He did look pretty surprised when I told him about the Earthtainer special discount! As I am sure you know, he is selling 5 gallon earthtainer as well as the regular ones in the store.
__________________
Michael |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: St Charles, IL zone 5a
Posts: 142
|
![]()
Does the Excelurator have root hormones or other special ingredients to justify its price? It looks like it is intended for continuous use, aimed towards hydroponic growers. I guess it must work if people keep buying it. Why not do a trial comparison w/ and w/o? At those low rates your myco should be OK, but that's just a guess.
Bulk source http://www.aaa-chemicals.com/potassium-hydroxide.html KOH MSDS http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/p5884.htm Testimonials http://couchlockcafe.com/showthread.php?t=590 Quote:
![]() ![]() I'm wondering how it would compare to Pro-Tekt. http://www.dyna-gro.com/retaildownloads.htm Interesting that potassium hydroxide is corrosive and potassium silicate is a corrosion inhibitor. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Tomatoville® Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
|
![]()
David
On the bottle are instructions for hydro and soil use. The amount for soil use is 1.2 tsp per 5 gallons of water. Yesterday, I planted out 25 varieties, I plant each, and put 1.2 tsp in 5 gallons, along with the Great White-which was 2 tsp for the 5 gallons of water- and dipped the plants in the solution. I am going to use the Excelurator every week for about 3 weeks.
__________________
Michael |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Landers, CA
Posts: 191
|
![]()
i will try to post photos of my seedlings that i am trialing
roots excelurator and rapid start, so far there is no difference in the growth or the health of the plants, if the end results are the same i will use rapid start only because it cost less money.??, regards. les |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, CA
Posts: 4,064
|
![]()
Michael,
Just talked with Jim and his customers mix the two together with no adverse effect. He said the compounds in the Excelurator will not kill the bacteria in the Great White at all. Raybo ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: St Charles, IL zone 5a
Posts: 142
|
![]() Quote:
http://www.bio-organics.com/Mycorrhizae_Products.html My main fertilizer for seedlings is MSU 13-3-15 8Ca 2Mg + minors @ 1/4-1/2 tsp/gal (50-100 ppm N). I hope that will work. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Tomatoville® Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
|
![]()
Ray
So I heard what Jim said right. Thx for talking to him. Les let us know how your trial turns out pls. David, I think it's the P that can take down the myco.
__________________
Michael |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Eastern Suburb of Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,313
|
![]()
Les, did you ever post on your results for the Excelurator vs Rapid Start vs. null trial? I have some of these products and would like to know their efficacy.
Thanks, Naysen |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E
Posts: 5,041
|
![]()
I did a little research and our cannabis friends have been testing the product with good results and it does seem more geared for hydroponic use. Some other posts indicate that the Fox Farms product Kongaroots is just as effetive and half the price.
A word of note. Ammonium Nitrate and Potassium Hydroxide, the two major players in Excelurator when mixed together will form Potassium nitrate. http://blog.bghydro.com/tag/enhancer/
__________________
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!' Last edited by amideutch; May 26, 2013 at 03:57 PM. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Eastern Suburb of Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,313
|
![]()
Hmm. Well, I just used it again with some AminoTreatment (1tsp per 5 gal) in my raised bed garden. Most plants seem quite beefy and happy, but I do so much for them I never know what specifically is good, what's bad, and what just doesn't matter. I'm half through the Excelurator after a year and a half of use, so I might try the Fox Farm's offering next time to save a buck.
Thanks Ami. -naysen |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|