Rouge Flamme

[fortyonenorth]

Has anyone grown Rouge Flamme? I grew this year - seed from Sandhill - and got fruit which is much smaller (3/4 inch) and inferior in flavor when compared to Flamme. Not much info out there - Tania's says "cherry" sized. Sandhill says "large cherry." Not sure I have the right thing.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by fortyonenorth

Has anyone grown Rouge Flamme? I grew this year - seed from Sandhill - and got fruit which is much smaller (3/4 inch) and inferior in flavor when compared to Flamme. Not much info out there - Tania's says "cherry" sized. Sandhill says "large cherry." Not sure I have the right thing.

Never heard of it before, missed it in the Sandhill catalog so sure enough it's a selection from Jaune Flamme and while Glenn lists Jaune Flamme as a cherry, I don't, so it shouldn't surprise me that Rouge Flamme was listed as a cherry and actually Glenn says a drop shaped cherry, so with a change in both color and shape I don't know what to say about it.

Well I do, I have nothing to say about it.

[fortyonenorth]

I'm guessing it's a off-type seed or something. It doesn't match anything that I'm growing this year, so I know it's not my mix-up (heaven forbid). We're especially fond of Jaune Flamme, so the idea of similar flavor in a red, was enticing. I'll try again next year.

[bitterwort]

I grew it a couple years ago, for the same reason you give, fortyone. I always grow JF in a pot as a reliable and tasty early. Like JF, it went in a large pot. Like yours (if I recall correctly), mine was smaller than JF and the flavor was nothing to write home about--although in fairness, I get better flavor growing in the ground than in pots typically. It was red, but I don't think the shape was either drop-shaped or like JF. My seed was also directly from Sandhill. I have limited growing space, so RF has not returned. If you do try it again, I'd be interested in hearing how it does.

[fortyonenorth]

Thanks BW. I'll do that.

[fortyonenorth]

Here's what I got. Jaune Flamme on the left, "Rouge Flamme" on the right.

flamme.jpg

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by fortyonenorth

Here's what I got.

Attachment 20069

Big orange to smaller orange to a bunch of small reds?

All off one plant or the oranges off some plants and the small reds off of other plants?

What did the oranges taste like as compared with the small reds or are you showing Jaune Flamme itself there at the left end?

Me bit a tad confused right now.

[fortyonenorth]

Sorry Carolyn - my oversight. Jaune Flamme is on the left for comparison. I amended my post to avoid confusion.

IMO, my "Rouge Flamme" has no similarity in taste to Jaune Flamme.

[Full Moon]

I might regret posting this ......... but your spelling is wrong

It should be Jaune Flammee (since you don't have the accents on your keyboard) the real way to spell it is Jaune Flammée.


For those of you who would like to know how to prononce it follow this link select "french" and type in the word.
http://www.oddcast.com/home/demos/tt...le.php?sitepal

Back to my corner now

[fortyonenorth]

Thanks Full Moon. My wife also pointed out that "Jaune" is NOT pronounced as in Spanish.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Full Moon

I might regret posting this ......... but your spelling is wrong

It should be Jaune Flammee (since you don't have the accents on your keyboard) the real way to spell it is Jaune Flammée.


For those of you who would like to know how to prononce it follow this link select "french" and type in the word.
http://www.oddcast.com/home/demos/tt...le.php?sitepal

Back to my corner now

YOu are aboslutely correct with your spelling and that's how it's spelled, with the accent mark, in my book.

But I tend to get lazy and don't always spell it the way it should be spelled and don't bother with the accent marks either.

So sue me!

Another one that gives me problems is Noire De Crimee, you can put in the accent mark, which is also correct in my book, but it has only one M whereas Jaune F has two M's.

I know what to do, I just don't do it.

And I also confess that when I was sending this variety to Linda Sapp at TGS many years ago, my seed source from a Frenchman in a huge trade in 1992, I left off the Jaune part b'c I was in a hurry so she spells the F part even differently. I told her about it but she's left it the way it has been. I think one year she had the J part in parens, but I don't remember which year (S).

And it gets even more confusing when you realize that Renee Shepherd introduced the variety Olympic Flame, a typical bicolor, and the Olympic Comm said she couldn't do that so she called it Old Flame and then that morphed into just Flame. And all three names appear here and there and they're all the same variety.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by fortyonenorth

Sorry Carolyn - my oversight. Jaune Flamme is on the left for comparison. I amended my post to avoid confusion.

IMO, my "Rouge Flamme" has no similarity in taste to Jaune Flamme.

I can believe you since Glenn did say tear drop shape and that along with the much smaller size as well as it being red doesn't resonate with me as being that close to Jaune F, I'm too concerned right now about spelling the F correctly and too darn lazy to go back up to check to be able to spell it correctly, but we know what we're talking about.