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Old September 9, 2006   #1
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Default Articles from "Off the Vine"

I hadn't realized that Craig had posted quite a few articles from his and Carolyn's newsletter until I looked on his website. I printed quite a few of the articles and they were very interesting.

I especially liked the article that recommended great tomatoes that have been overlooked.

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Old September 9, 2006   #2
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Lore,

The only articles Craig has at his webiste are the articles from OTV written by him.

None of mine are there.

And the reason is that when Craig wrote his articles he sent them to me on disc since I was the one who put each issue together and paid some students to fold, stamp and staple issues, and Craig kept copies of those discs with his articles.

All my articles and the ones sent to me by guest authors, etc., were also done on disc, but in the recent move up here I don't know what happened to those discs.

I have all the hard copy back issues here at home and Craig was going to try to scan them to make it complete, but ran into problems, I don't remember what they were.

Many folks have asked about starting that newsletter back up again, and the answer is an emphatic no, and there has been talk about putting together all the issues in some manner so they would be available to anyone who wanted them, not just those who have computers.

But life has been busy and complicated for both Craig and myself of late and no further thought at this time has been given to doing anything with OTV.
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Again, I would be thrilled to do this.

Let's start small. Send me 2 or 3 issues and I will faithfully reproduce them as PDF files as well as post the articles as plain HTML on a repository.

Need my address?
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I certainly enjoyed the articles that were written by Craig and hope to see more soon. Sometimes oldies are goodies. Some of us entered the gardening world late and the old information is new to us.

I would also like to see PBS start showing again the older versions of the Victory Garden and other vegetable gardening shows. All those wonderful shows that I never got to see. I found an old stockpile of old veggie gardening magazines from the 1950's at a yard sale and have been passing them out to people who tell me that they have never seen this information.

Its OK if you don't want to restart the newsletter, I was just happy to see some of the information that I had missed.

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Old September 10, 2006   #5
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Again, I would be thrilled to do this.

Let's start small. Send me 2 or 3 issues and I will faithfully reproduce them as PDF files as well as post the articles as plain HTML on a repository.

Need my address?
And Feldon is saying "again" b/c he already contacted me about this a few weeks ago.

If Craig agrees I'd be glad to send you a few issues to play around with, maybe starting with issues in sequence from the first issue?
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Sounds good to me! I'm very much looking forward to this project.
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if you all need any help with this project, I'd be more than willing to offer any assistance. I'll have plenty of time after my back surgery and certainly will be fighting cabin fever. Any distraction would be a good one. I can reproduce any format you want.
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Old September 11, 2006   #8
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Fine with me! If you can convert the files to Word then html, or pdf, I can load them onto my web site server and create the links.
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If they're mostly text, then I can convert easily to any format.

If there was a lot of layout and pictures, then that will predicate a bit more work (which I'm certainly up to) to preserve the layout and appearance of the newsletter as a whole.

Is there an interest in keeping the page numbering and layout of articles identical? Or is posting each article on its own page with the associated pictures sufficient?

Carolyn,

I don't know if it's valuable to you to be able to say "in issue #3 on page #12, I referred to variety X."

It might make sense, in addition to Craig storing the articles at his website in the original publication order, posting some or all of some of the articles here so people can comment, update, etc. I don't want to make things complicated, but I'm sure there are updates and news to report on most of the articles since they were published? The integrity of the original articles as-published (and the issue # and page # they came from) would be ensured.
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Feldon, I'm glad Craig says go ahead but I will tell you that we had talked about doing the updating ourselves, and while I'm speaking for myself I'm pretty sure Craig would agree.

These issues are not something that I see being thrown out there to be critiqued, corrected, or otherwise changed.

I think they should represent what we and others wrote and you can share what you do with Craig and I and we can update the articles as we go along as need be, but there won't be much updating.

There aren't any pictures but there are a few line drawings.

I think I may have only one copy of the first issue and the # of pages, font size and OTV logo changed as we went along.

So if I can get to those issues, and I may have to wait until someone can help me since I don't think my walker will allow it, perhaps I can send you issues 1 thru 3 to see how it goes.

Please send me via PM your home address.
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It's very important to me that the original text is preserved, except where the author of the piece requests that a typo or obvious error is corrected.

I'd rather not take the articles and turn this into some kind of community project.

I guess as the articles are posted, people will create topics here on TV "I just read this article and I'd like to say X". Provide feedback without cluttering the original text.

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Feldon,

Do you have Adobe Acrobat full? I imagine you already know this, but your best be is probably a good scanner and Adobe Acrobat. Then you can just print to a .PDF file and you're good to go

If you don't already have it, I could probably help you get ahold of a copy of it

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Thanks for your offer! I have Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. etc. I intend to make the articles available in PDF as well as 1-2 other formats.

P.S. Why does this forum consider my attempt to edit a post within 60 seconds of posting it to be trying to "double post"?
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[code]I'd rather not take the articles and turn this into some kind of community project. [/code]

no problem offer withdrawn
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Old September 12, 2006   #15
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While we await with great anticipation, here's some other "off the vine" offerings to enjoy ... but none about tomatoes:

http://www.offthevinetexas.com/

http://www.torquerepress.com/offthevine/index.html

http://www.offthevinepga.com/

http://www.hotoffthevine.com/

http://www.comedyoffthevine.com/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/series/wine/
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