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November 14, 2006 | #1 |
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Soldacki vs. Polish "C" ~
Hey everyone ~
Now it's my time to sit back, realx, and decide which varieties to grow in 2007. I am waiting for our SH friends to start sending beautiful pics of harvest as bayback - yes Fullmoon I know they're coming! lol ~ In your "ever growing opinion" , which variety was better in regards to over all disease tolerance, flavor and production : Soldacki or Polish "C" ? Thanks ~ Tom
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November 14, 2006 | #2 |
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Tom,
In my ever growing opinion, Solkacki and Polish C were equal in disease tolerance. Soldacki had better flavor, while Polish C had better production. Now, if you asked about Polish Ellis... Gary |
November 14, 2006 | #3 |
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Polish Ellis Gary ???
Another PL Polish variety ??? Now we're in some trouble ! Did Polish "C" taste bad ? Or just not as good as Soldacki > ~ Tom
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November 14, 2006 | #4 |
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Tom,
There are several varieties that are named Polish and without even getting to the ones called polish pink or polish red, some PL, some RL, and variations on that theme. Here's the scoop. There's Polish C And then there's Polish that's IDed with Bill Ellis of PA who is a faculty member down there, in folklore if I remember correctly and he ihntroduced it to the SSE Yearbook/ The key word in IDing this one is when one sees the two wrods brick red to describe the color, even tho it's pink for Bill used that brick red when he first listed it/ And then there's Polish, the one that Tom Hauch at heirloom seeds sells and says the seeds got to the US under a stamp. One year Ii grew all three, and all are PL and all give large deep pink, almost red beefsteak fruits. And even if you held a rifle to my head I couldjn't tell one from the other, in that trial re either taste or production. How do I compare any of them with Soldacki? Hard to say b'c I like that one as well, re both taste and production.
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November 14, 2006 | #5 |
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Personally, I think Polish and Soldacki and very different. Both are large prolific pinks with great taste, both have huge plants, but Soldacki has a wonderful growth habit like none other.
Soldacki branches upwards into a crown upon which tens of bright yellow flowers burst open in unison like diamonds on the tiara of Mrs World. It is a beautiful sight and one that soon enamours the aesthete to the variety. It promises and it delivers a lot (unlike so many things in today's world). Never mind the cracks around the stem end of the fruit. People pay big money for patina in furniture. This is a sign of a good old world tomato. Grow her and see. |
November 14, 2006 | #6 |
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The Polish I grew two year ago from my neighbours seeds gave my fruit that was identical to the Polish C photos in Carolyns book. It was very productive for me for a plant grown outside the greenhouse. But I remember the fruit as being round and deep pink.
Agree with Grub re Soldacki |
November 15, 2006 | #7 |
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Tom,
Soldacki, Polish C, and Polish Ellis are all fantastic tomatoes, to me. Ellis just a little better, than the other two. Soldacki had a problem with the heavy rain, late in the year. Both radial and concentric cracking. They looked like round Rubic's cubes. Gary |
November 16, 2006 | #8 |
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Maybe I should grow them side by side
to compare ... seems like we have the same tomato with three names > no ? ~ Tom
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November 16, 2006 | #9 |
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have the same tomato with three names > no ?
Not in terms of what's known about the origins. Polish C I don't have a clue, Polish ( Ellis) from Bill Ellis in PA and Polish ( from heirloomseeds and directly from Europe) are all PL and have dark pink reddish beefsteak fruits, but it doesn't say they are the same for there are subtle differences in growth habit and taste. I could name, but won't, 25 PL large pinks that I really couldn't tell apart well, and I know from the backgrounds that they aren't all the same.
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November 16, 2006 | #10 |
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Carolyn,
Maybe some of these varoeties could have "moved" places before we "named" them ... you know ? ~ Tom
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