Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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May 30, 2014 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Back from Savannah,GA w/heat & disease resistant varieties
The wife and I have just arrived back from beautiful Savannah, GA.; a 290 mile trip that certainly tested my endurance with the spinal stenosis and Forestiers disease. Everything hurts now, but I was on a mission. I never could find Creole or Goose Creek, but did locate a couple Florida varieties, a few that are heat resistant, and a couple others that are very disease resistant. These should be an interesting test with one row for the pure varietal itself and another row using them as rootstock for the old varieties I started from seed. Great food, but Savannah red rice is NOT Charleston style.
Listened to one lady from MASS who was highly offended because she had seen the southern "stars and bars" flying during her travels. Not wanting to get into a debate or such, I fought the urge to educate her. Besides, she went on and on about her family coming over on the Mayflower...apparently not even knowing about the age of Beaufort...just a short distance away, nor was I going to get into tit for tat re family history ...much less a discussion of the Civil War or southern history. Anyway, everything hurts now, so I'm about to take a pain pill and much needed nap. WILL respond to others posts later. |
May 30, 2014 | #2 |
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Can commiserate with your stenosis. I have it in my neck vertebrae, but am not symptomatic. You did right with that person. Can't win an argument with someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. A waste of good air.
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May 31, 2014 | #3 |
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June 1, 2014 | #4 |
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June 1, 2014 | #5 |
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Savannah is a beautiful, overlooked city full of history and great things to see, do, and places to eat. Charleston is great too, but I almost dismissed Savannah until I got there.
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June 2, 2014 | #6 |
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You are absolutely right! Savannah is beautiful and has plenty to see and do. However, what they are lacking somewhat is the integrity in their cooking...despite having more restaurants in a very short drive. While having dishes of every possible ethnicity, the authenticity or integrity seems to be drifting more towards a fusion while the adherence to quality and genuineness seems to be slipping while the prices have gone ever higher. Keep in mind that I have a low country SC or even Charleston bias. Too, I was surprised that crab and shrimp dishes totally dominate so that fresh fish was frequently missing from menus. Too, though I was raised on bushels of crab fresh from the rivers around Charleston, I consider the best crab cakes anywhere only to be found in Baltimore...made with saltines, incredibly light, and fried in butter. The simplicity of low country food or even true Gullah was missing. Red Rice is NOT dirty rice Cajun style, though most things now called Cajun or Creole started in Charleston. Back to that red rice. I would just love to find a recipe for the simple tomato based red rice in which the tomato is the star ingredient. I wish the ladies of Charleston Receipts would issue a special edition with those wonderful old versions of classic dishes such as tomato rich Pine Bark Stew. Even the Barbecue I had in Savannah was pure mustard soaked and cooked. Give me the style from the 1600s that was the vinegar, black pepper, and red pepper basted variety still found between Florence, Lake City and Kingstree. Sorry, no tomatoes there. And, I'm still frustrated that I didn't find the Creole or Goose Creek varieties. Oh well, when I returned I was blessed to find the seeds so graciously and thoughtfully sent me. Those were immediately planted yesterday. Bless you all.
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June 2, 2014 | #7 |
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I too have spinal stenosis in my lower back and have been through the gambit of treatments including pain pills, Dr. Feelgood shots, physical therapy, acupuncture and the chiropractor route. None gave me permanent results.
Built a magnetic pulser for $50.00 and started using it everyday for about 5 minutes and within a month I did not have anymore pain. Now I use it 2-3 times a week and the pain has not come back! Ami
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June 2, 2014 | #8 |
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Please let us know how your heat/disease resistant varieties fair.
I am in South Carolina and always appreciate a variety that can weather the climate conditions here. Sorry about your stenosis...hubby has it too. He often wears a back-brace (like movers wear) when doing anything that might stress the back.
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June 2, 2014 | #9 |
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MY main issue with the combination of Forestiers causing all bones to grow together and the stenosis from the pinched nerved causing a loss of whatever is driven by those nerves is now swallowing and either standing or walking. Both ideas here are GREATLY welcomed. Thus far, all specialists say they can do nothing and even the most powerful pain meds do little to nothing. The frustrating thing is in my fighting this. Today I went for the first time to my old/unused garden in the back where I had to put my heat and disease resistant varieties. There should be plenty of nutrition from all of the humus and compost added a couple years ago, but even with that I quite simply didn't have it in me to dig the kind of holes that took me three days each for my 12 plantings in the front. This meant that I dug one shovelful deep instead of the 2' X2' done in the early spring. That drive to Savannah combined with the heat meant that my new plantings went just three inches below their soil line...something I never would have done in the past...and I surely felt the disgust of caving in to such an excuse for planting. My hope is to try in a few days to one by one put a few shovels full of my good, black compost at the top and work up to at least six more inches of soil around the surface. Hope this will work. At least those in the front are 4 ' tall and loaded with fruit, but those in the back will be used for my seed just planted with another row of the original varieties of the stock growing on their own alongside for comparison.
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June 2, 2014 | #10 |
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Here are some pictures of the Magnetic Pulser I built and use.
Ami
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June 3, 2014 | #11 |
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Ami,
Thanks for the pictures. That was some mighty impressive work. Some years ago a therapist used an electrical stimulator that sent jolts into the hips and spine that lifted me off the table. I am no doctor, but it seemed to me, with a background in computers, that too much voltage could damage the central data bus that comprises our spinal cord and nerves, just like a power surge does in computers. My CPU is already bad enough and my distribution network of nerves already dying. I assume that yours is more of an electromagnetic pulse than a direct electrical surge? |
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The doctors told me the only option I had left was surgery but since I started using the Mag Pulser that was not the case. Ami
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