A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.
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June 23, 2014 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Illinois, zone 6
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The Sweet Flavor of Manure
Last year, I didn't do any soil amendment to my high tunnel beds, just tilled and added chemical fertilizers. The flavor of my tomatoes were weak. I just thought that was an effect of being in a high tunnel.
This year, I went into the cow field in the early spring and scraped up the topsoil around where the cows had been fed big bales of hay. It looked like black dirt. I carried it by the bucket out of the field, a truckload of buckets at a time. Each bed got a thick layer of the stuff that was tilled in. I ate my first high tunnel tomato of this year, and it is tremendously better-tasting than what I grew last year. If the flavor of a perfect late-summer outdoor garden tomato is a 10, I would rate the tomato I ate today at a 9. Last year was more like a 5. And sixty days after planting, my plants are seven feet tall and loaded with fruit. Fittingly enough, one of our cows is named Sugar. She makes sweet flavor indeed |
June 23, 2014 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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You are fortunate to have that source so close at hand. I have to drive to a horse farm to get it. My truck will only hold 19 5 gallon buckets but I make many trips during the year. It is free and the owner has it all scooped up in a large pile so I am grateful to have this resource.
With Florida's less than optimal native soil I would not have the same growing success without it. The taste of tomatoes grown in good rich soil is different. I remember what tomatoes tasted like when I lived in Kentucky and Indiana and was so disappointed in my Florida ones until I amended the soil and switched to organic fertilizers. |
June 23, 2014 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: ny
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You're going to make me regret not using Black Kow compost this year, aren't cha??
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June 23, 2014 | #4 |
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I too have benefitted from the generous use of from the barn, ground manure. It does wonderful thing for the garde and I am fortunate to have all I want. I have an old Kemp shredder/chipper that I rescued from ruin and when I have large pieces of dried manure I run itthrough the Kemp and store it in 5 gal buckets for future use if not needed right away.
jon |
June 23, 2014 | #5 |
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This is my first year in a new garden, so I am using a combination of Black Kow and rabbit manure that I got off CraigsList. This fall, I will be hitting up all the nearby horse stables as well as collecting mountains of leaves from neighbors. Shredded leaves are an incredible amendment and can make even an average-tasting variety extraordinary.
Michael G. added 4-6 inches of shredded leaves each year to his garden beds
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June 23, 2014 | #6 |
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Feldon,
I couldn't agree more on the shredded leaves. That has been one of my most used amendments. If I can't get any, I go to our city recycling center and can get all the shredded native tree material I want. It is an exceptional source of nutrients as well, as it is leaves, stems, and roots. Are those beds no border and raised? |
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June 25, 2014 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Connecticut
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I love using both manure and large quantities of oak and maple leaves when I make my compost. I think both have made an incredible difference in my garden.
Glenn |
August 10, 2014 | #10 |
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Join Date: May 2014
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The following was included in the column [ ideas for preparing beds for next season]
I'm new to this site and trying to figure it out. So much good information about my favorite subject-dirt. My gardens are improved with horse manure and leaves in the fall. When any large blocks of plants come out, such as garlic in July, I will cover crop with buckwheat and then grain rye. I can double up on the cover crops and still have time for leaves in November. I hear a lot of talk about tillage ruining soil structure or damaging earthworms. Organic matter has been tilled into my gardens twice a year for decades. I can assure you that what few earthworms are hurt will replenish quickly. Nothing against store bought fertilizer but natural products do work over time. Brown-green and manure in any combination or quantity is all soil really needs. |
August 12, 2014 | #11 | |
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Soil is my favorite subject also. I am actually surprised that we do not get more posts on soil building. Personally I can't think of anything more important to growing high quality produce. Glenn |
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