What's the best pepper questions?

[MendozaMark]

Looking for peoples recommendations for what they believe is the best production pepper and /or earliest pepper.

Looking for
1. bell type
2. Sweet not bell type
3. Paprika/drying..
4. Mild hot
5. Medium hot
6. Hot
7. Super hot

Productive in terms you could actually use the pepper for market. You don't have to limit yourself to one pepper per category either, just looking at potential peppers for trialling next year. I think early has its advantages too, so I could crop before the summer heat slows everything down. I do overwinter peppers so not being early is not the end of the world sort to speak.

Cheers ! Mark

[Patihum]

1. bell type - sorry don't grow them
2. Sweet not bell type - Ljubov Dlan, Tollis Sweet Italian
3. Paprika/drying - Limon for a yellow and Leutschauer Paprika for the red.
4. Mild Hot - Pelso and Golden Ancho
5. Medium Hot - Numex Big Jim - varies from mild to medium but a great all around pepper
6. Hot - Tabasco Short Yellow - small but mighty and Serrano the old reliable
7. Super Hot - Yaki Blue Fawn -great flavor before the heat hits!

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by Patihum

1. bell type - sorry don't grow them
2. Sweet not bell type - Ljubov Dlan, Tollis Sweet Italian
3. Paprika/drying - Limon for a yellow and Leutschauer Paprika for the red.
4. Mild Hot - Pelso and Golden Ancho
5. Medium Hot - Numex Big Jim - varies from mild to medium but a great all around pepper
6. Hot - Tabasco Short Yellow - small but mighty and Serrano the old reliable
7. Super Hot - Yaki Blue Fawn -great flavor before the heat hits!

Thank you so very much ! Exactly what i am looking for! I am going to research the ones I don't know , which is a fair bit.

Cheers ! Mark

[Cole_Robbie]

Early Sunsation is the best bell I have grown. It's a green to yellow. Socrates has a good reputation as a green to red bell. Corno di Toro red and yellow are both fine sweet peppers, too.

Mucho Nacho is my pick for the best hybrid jalapeno. Mammoth is the best OP jalapeno I have had.

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

Early Sunsation is the best bell I have grown. It's a green to yellow. Socrates has a good reputation as a green to red bell. Corno di Toro red and yellow are both fine sweet peppers, too.

Mucho Nacho is my pick for the best hybrid jalapeno. Mammoth is the best OP jalapeno I have had.

Thanks again Cole_Robbie ! I really like how jalapeños overwinter for me too. Much easier then some of my other peppers. Some of my jalapeños didn't even go dormant. That makes hybrid peppers more desirable then say hybrid tomatoes which i try to avoid as i get my seed out of country. I will put Mucho nacho on the must list. I have a "giant" jalapeño including 2 overwintered ones. Is Mammoth a different variety then giant (pepper North seeds) ? I have early jalapeño seeds, and two other types that i collected from unknown fresh jalapenos. One of these is a 3+ foot workhorse and the other a small 18" lateral grower. I also have Biker Billy on my 2016 get list.

I am trialling both red and yellow Corno di Toros this year (seedlings stage now)

Cheers Mark

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by Patihum

1. bell type - sorry don't grow them
2. Sweet not bell type - Ljubov Dlan, Tollis Sweet Italian
3. Paprika/drying - Limon for a yellow and Leutschauer Paprika for the red.
4. Mild Hot - Pelso and Golden Ancho
5. Medium Hot - Numex Big Jim - varies from mild to medium but a great all around pepper
6. Hot - Tabasco Short Yellow - small but mighty and Serrano the old reliable
7. Super Hot - Yaki Blue Fawn -great flavor before the heat hits!

I see Tatiana carries Tolli's and Pelso peppers. Is Ljubov Dlan also called Elephant Ears ? Yaki looks amazing, have to try it just on looks. Where can i get seeds for Ljubov Dlan and the Yaki Blue Fawn ? I do have elphant ears though, so let me know if that is really Ljubov Dlan and i will make the name change.

Thanks Again Mark

[AlittleSalt]

For the sweet not bell type, Banana peppers grow fast and produce a lot. I agree with Tabasco and Serrano for Hot.

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

For the sweet not bell type, Banana peppers grow fast and produce a lot. I agree with Tabasco and Serrano for Hot.

Thanks alittleSalt, I am trialling all 3 this year. Good to see they get a Texas approval as Mendoza and parts of Texas are very similar.

[Cole_Robbie]

I got Mammoth from a fellow tviller; I don't remember who. I was going to do a seed offer of it when mine quits producing. It has been very productive in a 3-gallon pot and is still setting fruit. The peppers are fat, and about 2-3 inches long. Mucho Nacho is also fat, and beats it on length, 4-5 inches. They are the biggest jalapenos I have seen.

I am just getting started with hot peppers. This year I grew Fred Hempel's Mareko Fana, a hot frying pepper I liked a lot. I also grew a Ghost Pepper next to a Carolina Reaper. The Ghost Pepper is a much nicer pepper. Carolina Reaper is paper-thin, more ornamental than anything, even if it is the world's hottest.

I have a lot of new hot pepper seeds varieties I got from recent trades. I am looking forward to trying them next year.

[Patihum]

Originally Posted by MendozaMark

I see Tatiana carries Tolli's and Pelso peppers. Is Ljubov Dlan also called Elephant Ears ? Yaki looks amazing, have to try it just on looks. Where can i get seeds for Ljubov Dlan and the Yaki Blue Fawn ? I do have elphant ears though, so let me know if that is really Ljubov Dlan and i will make the name change.

Thanks Again Mark

If you can wait a few weeks for the seeds I can send you some for both Ljubov Dlan and Yaki Blue Fawn. I was late planting out and they're just now ripening. No Ljubov Dlan is not the same as Elephant ears.

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by Patihum

If you can wait a few weeks for the seeds I can send you some for both Ljubov Dlan and Yaki Blue Fawn. I was late planting out and they're just now ripening. No Ljubov Dlan is not the same as Elephant ears.

I have lots of time to wait, I get my seeds sent to my family in Canada , then bring them down when i make my yearly visit. I have a decent list going here as well which i will post in a few months after i can collect seeds. I also have some unknown baccatum peppers that i got from local markets. I am just germinating them now. So i can do a trade in the future or i can have a family member SASE you whenever you are ready.

Thank you so much for advice and generous offer !

Cheers Mark

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

I got Mammoth from a fellow tviller; I don't remember who. I was going to do a seed offer of it when mine quits producing. It has been very productive in a 3-gallon pot and is still setting fruit. The peppers are fat, and about 2-3 inches long. Mucho Nacho is also fat, and beats it on length, 4-5 inches. They are the biggest jalapenos I have seen.

I am just getting started with hot peppers. This year I grew Fred Hempel's Mareko Fana, a hot frying pepper I liked a lot. I also grew a Ghost Pepper next to a Carolina Reaper. The Ghost Pepper is a much nicer pepper. Carolina Reaper is paper-thin, more ornamental than anything, even if it is the world's hottest.

I have a lot of new hot pepper seeds varieties I got from recent trades. I am looking forward to trying them next year.

I grew the reaper as well, and i totally agree, not worth the time. I have a lot of Fred's tomatoes on my list and i know he likes Aji Amarillo which I have now. I will add Mareko Fana too, if Fred and you like it , I won't argue.

I am in no hurry for seeds and since you already generously accepted a SASE for your tomatoes, perhaps you could hold on for a few pepper seeds too? You can PM on that if you wish.

I do have over 50 types of peppers here that I am trialling for both personal and market purposes. I will share with TV all my results and recommendations and make a seed offer. I have some real interesting regional unknown (not id'd yet) baccatum types that really impressed me, taste wise. I also have one unknown pepper from Africa that my wife brought back from Liberia. Its a smaller plant 12 to 18", but yields really nice mid size peppers with good kick. What really impressed me though is it won't stop producing and never went dormant. My giant Jala went dormant, my unknown workhorse Jala stayed green, but this one never stopped setting fruit. It also seems to like less sun then other peppers i grew.

I am going to take some pics soon of my overwintered peppers, so i will post on this thread shortly.

Cheers Mark

[AlittleSalt]

I know that seasons are different world wide. This thread made me curious as to how the weather is alike that here in Texas. http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...+ARMA0056:1:AR I noticed the Historical Monthly Average on the right side of the 10-day forecast. Those temperatures are like those here in Texas from March 20 - June 1 (in a good weather year). Here in Texas, you have to watch for a frost or a late freeze in March through mid-April and it can easily get over 90F in April and May.

MendozaMark, I don't know if you started your peppers indoors in flats/cells, but I'm guessing if you did, you probably started them a couple months ago?

I'm unsure of how well certain types of peppers sell world-wide, but I've noticed that peppers with a lot of color sell well here locally. In grocery stores, Tomatoes are red and smooth, and peppers are green. I wish there were others available at the grocery stores, but you can find home grown peppers and tomatoes at the local flea markets and roadside stands.

[MendozaMark]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

I know that seasons are different world wide. This thread made me curious as to how the weather is alike that here in Texas. http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...+ARMA0056:1:AR I noticed the Historical Monthly Average on the right side of the 10-day forecast. Those temperatures are like those here in Texas from March 20 - June 1 (in a good weather year). Here in Texas, you have to watch for a frost or a late freeze in March through mid-April and it can easily get over 90F in April and May.

MendozaMark, I don't know if you started your peppers indoors in flats/cells, but I'm guessing if you did, you probably started them a couple months ago?

I'm unsure of how well certain types of peppers sell world-wide, but I've noticed that peppers with a lot of color sell well here locally. In grocery stores, Tomatoes are red and smooth, and peppers are green. I wish there were others available at the grocery stores, but you can find home grown peppers and tomatoes at the local flea markets and roadside stands.

Hi Salt, I believe Central Texas is the most similar, Worth said he had lived somewhere that even had the strong winds and altitude (2500 ft above Sea Level) I am in the foothills of the Andes so we get interesting weather with Zonda winds being the most interesting. Hail is also a big factor. The last frost is Sept 17th and the first May 4th. Mid Sept to Mid Feb temps are consistently in the high 90's +. I just moved here from Atlantic Canada (Fredericton, NB) which is north of Maine. I had to relearn gardening when i moved here, and I am still in the process of relearning. It is a desert here, tons of sun, no rain or humidity. In Canada we have a short 3 month season if you are lucky, and some summers are nothing but rain and humidity. When i got here I was thinking that i had one giant summer to play with. I have learned that I have really 2 shorter growing seasons sandwiched in-between the killer hot season. I am concentrating on tomatoes and peppers for a small open market. The tomatoes I will do 2 crops mostly in raised gardens and a few containers. I am going to try the cherry and grapes all summer (had good luck last year). The peppers will be grown for the whole summer and I will overwinter as many as possible, I have about 50 from last year. My tomatoes are about 7 weeks from seed, peppers about 6 weeks. I have limited space and since i am trialling so many types this year, it is not the most efficient system. I am also trying to grow everything organically and as cheap as possible. There is no one selling heirlooms/OPs of either peppers or tomatoes. You have paste, round slicer, bland red cherry and boring grape cherry. The paste types are determinate and when the season comes in, can be decent in flavour, the round are terrible. Argentinians don't like hot peppers unlike all their South American neighbours. They do like sweet peppers and you see 3 main types, basic bells, Calafuco(s?) very similar to a bell except shape, and
sweet banana type. They never give variety names here for peppers or tomatoes. I do find hot peppers here, a thai looking type, hot wax type, and few jalapeños. Usually they just dump the peppers together and sell at one price for the hots. This is where i find some of the hidden gems in the baccatum family. I always go through the mix and take anything i have not seen and collect seed after i eat them.

So why would i try to sell hot peppers here? Well i have discovered an interest with people from other countries and also younger people. The diet here although seemingly unchanging is slowly being effected by the internet. I also live very cheaply here and don't need much income to stay in the black. I use to do computer work in Canada and hated it. When i made the decision to remake myself, I wanted to do something I loved. So I won't ever be rich doing this. I love to get people to not only try new things but also try to grow them. When my peppers and tomatoes hit the market table, it will be a rainbow of colours, sizes, shapes and flavours. I also make sauces, salsas, dehydrated tomatoes, pepper flakes/paprika and will be selling plants as well. The idea is that no tomato or pepper goes to compost.

Cheers Mark

[greenthumbomaha]

I'll attempt an answer to your first category, the bell pepper.

I've been trying to grow a decent bell pepper for years, and they have always been very thin walled. I thought it was the climate or soil at fault. Spent a ton of money on pepper seeds from many quality seed companies, primarily OP.

Last year I saved seeds from a giant bell I bought from a farmers market grower that also sells to my local grocery store on Monday. I am guessing they use a hybrid seed and I am very happy with how the plant turned out. Wish I could find out what variety they are. I only got 8 seeds from the biggest pepper on the plant (no complaints it was huge).

Hybrid peppers were discussed in a thread last year. The drawback is you have to buy them in huge quantities and they are costly.

- Lisa