flower to fruit

[charline]

how long does it take from flower to fruit in a cherry and in a full size tomato? I know about from planting to fruit but at this time of the season it is more important to know flower to fruit.
thank you for any advise

[Gardeneer]

It partly depend on (1) variety's genetic and (2) Growing condition /climate.
But you can give it a so-called ball park estimate:

--Cheery >>> 35-40 days
-- Beefsteak >> 45 to 50 days.

[gorbelly]

Here's a screenshot of the tomato timeline from the old TomatoSite.



The page itself is still archived in some places, such as here: http://feldoncentral.com/garden/tomato_timeline.html
or here:
http://web.archive.org/web/201012180...Truss_Timeline

This is for big beef. Smaller tomatoes will take less time. Some varieties may take longer.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by gorbelly

Here's a screenshot of the tomato timeline from the old TomatoSite.



The page itself is still archived in some places, such as here: http://feldoncentral.com/garden/tomato_timeline.html
or here:
http://web.archive.org/web/201012180...Truss_Timeline

This is for big beef. Smaller tomatoes will take less time. Some varieties may take longer.

Yes Gorbelly,I know that link very well and Paul , the author of that timeline was originally at the original Garden Web tomato Forum where I was the coordinator of writing all the new FAQ's that are there and Paul uploaded them.

Volunteering to be the coordinator was one of the stupidest things I've ever done,but eventually we finished them.

Paul left there and sometime later did his timeline,which I have in my faves as well.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by charline

how long does it take from flower to fruit in a cherry and in a full size tomato? I know about from planting to fruit but at this time of the season it is more important to know flower to fruit.
thank you for any advise

Charline,for me it's not the size of the fruit at all,but whether the variety is indet or det and whether it's early or mid or late a season variety.

Now my above comments are independent of all the variables we know well,that is how grown,inground,containers,cages,etc.,and if amendments were used,which ones and how much and when,and often so important,what was the weather like in any given season.

I've grown cherries that were close to being late season,and some beefsteaks that I would call late early season. And I've had late season ones ripen before midseason ones and early season ones ripen before mid season ones as well.

Carolyn

[NarnianGarden]

This is what interests me as well and I have tried to make some observations about fruit growth, how rapidly they were formed etc. Some varieties seem to be quicker than other in forming fruits, while grown in the same soil and conditions. Some of my cherry toms seem to take forever, while others get their full size in a few days, or so it seems...

[RJGlew]

My experiences would suggest the number of days between flowering & blush are based on the weather in a particular season and also tightly tied to your growing location. Long term averages for specific varieties in specific locations may be helpful for that area, but I would be suspicious of their value in any other part of the country.

I track the Days to Germ, Planting Date, First Flower Date, First Blush Date for each variety I grow each year. Dates/durations are always for the first occurance of that measure. In order to show the variation I have seen I'll use Burpee's Early Treat F1 and Stupice (North American) as examples. Please, no snickering about when I see my first tomatoes here...

NarnianGarden - agreed about interest in early growth rates. I don't have a good way to measure them, but my feeling is that the fastest early growers of bigger fruit in my area are Moskvich (NA indeterminate), 0-33 and Sophie's Choice. For cherries, Sun Gold F1 is always first here. Joseph has provided some interesting observations on this topic through the years.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by RJGlew

My experiences would suggest the number of days between flowering & blush are based on the weather in a particular season and also tightly tied to your growing location. Long term averages for specific varieties in specific locations may be helpful for that area, but I would be suspicious of their value in any other part of the country.

I track the Days to Germ, Planting Date, First Flower Date, First Blush Date for each variety I grow each year. Dates/durations are always for the first occurance of that measure. In order to show the variation I have seen I'll use Burpee's Early Treat F1 and Stupice (North American) as examples. Please, no snickering about when I see my first tomatoes here...

NarnianGarden - agreed about interest in early growth rates. I don't have a good way to measure them, but my feeling is that the fastest early growers of bigger fruit in my area are Moskvich (NA indeterminate), 0-33 and Sophie's Choice. For cherries, Sun Gold F1 is always first here. Joseph has provided some interesting observations on this topic through the years.

When I was growing tomatoes at my field at the farm I'd do pretty much the same thing.

The field was 250 ft long and about 90 ft wide.

Charlie my farmer friend would prepare my field for me and mark the rows,then on my hands and knees I'd go down each row planting the starts.I'd put a marker at the first plant of a specific variety,then go back and copy that down in my data book since sometimes i'd have just two plants of a variety and sometimes many more,depending on the variety.

Then each day I'd go down the rows copying into my note book,first blossom,leaf form, first fruit set and first ripe fruits and det or indet.Also size and shape of fruits since for many varieties at that time that was not known

At the time I was teaching at a private liberal arts college and had summers off,so had plenty of time to tend to many hundreds of plants and varieties and then process all of them for seed for SSE listings and seed offers and delivered fruits to two restaurants, for food back and one large nursery for money back..

Of course I grew lots of other stuff in the large field as well,such as a 250 ft row of just melons and one of potatoes,and so much more like b sprouts and broccoli and cukes,etc..

I also had a side garden where I grew all the smaller stuff like carrots and radishes and greens and turnips and summer squash and peas and beans and again,so much more.

Carolyn

[RJGlew]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Then each day I'd go down the rows copying into my note book,first blossom,leaf form, first fruit set and first ripe fruits and det or indet.Also size and shape of fruits since for many varieties at that time that was not known

Carolyn, thank you for adding your exeriences, and I will definately add first fruit set for next year - that's a good one. I'm also now thinking about adding a weekly circumference measurement of first fruit for growth rate - however it would be tough to remember which one to measure on each plant! :-)