July 2016 Hottest on Record.

[kurt]

From NASA.Even our Trinadadian Scorpians,Morugas super hots will not set peppers.Buds and flowers galore.Second summer set of Mangoes not filling out.What next?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...pm_local_pop_b

[dmforcier]

One might take that article seriously if the author had any idea what a "long term average" actually is. 30 years? We're taking about geophysical phenomenon that naturally varies over tens of thousands of years.


Then there was the article a few weeks ago about how "rising sea levels from global warming" are drowning towns in the southernmost Mississippi delta. In fact, the delta naturally subsides, and depends on silt deposited from river floods to stay above sea level. Channelizing the river has prevented that silt deposition for over 100 years. The sea isn't rising, the land is sinking.

But I suppose that if you have something to sell, you're going to slant every story to help you sell it.

[Fred Hempel]

Depends on where you are. It was our coolest July in a long time.

[MarianneW]

On track to be Arizona's hottest summer. So far, 30 days above 110 and summer isn't remotely over. It's been hot, to say the least.

I still have chiles setting this summer but they're almost all anuum.

[My Foot Smells]

what's with all the chili reference. is it b/c they are hot to the taste, they like hot weather?

my chili's like moderate temps and shade to perform their best (ghost, hab's, etc..) they go gang buster in the early fall. during the heat peak, they stove up and flat out would not produce. the pods on the plant even got a little shriveled too.

my zip code was scorching in july, maybe hottest, dunno. it twas hot and pepper & tomato did not like it one bit.

[ginger2778]

I believe in science. This is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association. I dont think they are selling a thing.

[Captain Neon]

Just an observation, as a student at the U of Minnesota, there were no global warming conferences scheduled on campus in January. A grad student once came to one of my classes seeking volunteers for her global warming study. It was January, and it was -45F out (Tower had reported a temperature that night of < -60F), there were no takers.

[kurt]

Originally Posted by MarianneW

On track to be Arizona's hottest summer. So far, 30 days above 110 and summer isn't remotely over. It's been hot, to say the least.

I still have chiles setting this summer but they're almost all anuum.

Here in 10B we struggle with the humidity(now 80-100 in our rainy season) that wants to clump the pollens.Need to get someone with the pollen collection buzzer to save some pollens,freeze then use when needed like now.

[garyjr]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I believe in science. This is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association. I dont think they are selling a thing.

The UAH is probably the best representation of temperature since it is satellite based and corrects for urbanization that may effect temp. data. This data has been avail only since 1979. The hottest July's on record are all 3 in the 2nd year of an El Nino.. 1997-98 being the hottest. 2009-10 the second hottest. 2015-16 could be on pace to surpass 97-98. This data contradicts Nasa's claim of 2014 being the hottest on record. They did walk this back a bit, claiming approx. 38% accuracy in their data set, but it did not receive front page headlines by the Post or any other major paper. El-nina is on the way so get ready for a cool down.

[dmforcier]

Two observations, Marsha. 1) Note that the base period 1951-1980 cited in the article is considerably cooler than the preceding and following 30 year periods. 2) Note that the chart covers a little more than a century. Look at the millennium scale charts.

Then remember that we're coming out of an ice age. The climate has been warming for the past 50,000 years or more. No need to get excited because it continues to do so.


Marianne, the last time I was in Phoenix it felt like a sauna. I blame all those swimming pools.

[dmforcier]

Here is a chart of the past 12,000 years, as we continue coming out of general glacial coverage. Note that the present day is on the left.

[Hellmanns]

The sea level rose 6 inches from 1800 to 1900 and then rose 8 inches from 1900 to 2000. Since 2000, the rate has continued around 8 inches per century.

Sea level has been rising for most of the last 12,000 years and the rate picked up a bit since the little ice age which bottomed out in 1630 AD.

From the figures above, it is my professional opinion that if humans never existed, then the sea level would be 2 inches lower. Other people tend to disagree, but only by an inch or two..

[nhardy]

Not the normal hot summer here in St. Louis. El Nino left us later spring. I can't remember any day 100 plus. Water bill say mild summer. We used 8 units of water. Last year was 8 units of water too when we were in El Nino. Both this year and last, I never water any of the lawn. The normal summer months is 15 units of water. NOAA calling for 55%-60% chance of La Nina starting this fall.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product.../ensodisc.html

[Worth1]

A relatively pleasant summer for me.
Who ever invented the thermostat should be shot.
If you dont look at it you wont know how hot it is.
If you dont look at the news and just concentrate on your life and your community you will be far better off.
In my opinion due to records we are due for another ice age and Yellow Stone is past due for another massive explosion.
There isn't one thing we can do about it.
Our ideas of modern man are very young.
It wasn't that long ago people were burned at the stake for thinking and saying things we take as gospel today.
What will the people 200 to 300 years from now think about us?
Worth

[Nematode]

Well here is the semi short view of the climate record(400,000years) The climate has always changed, so why is it now a crisis?

20,000 years ago there would have been 1mile thick ice sheet over me at this location.


Marsha, I always look forward to your posts, but when it comes to climate NASA is no longer a science organization.
As far as I can tell they no longer publish surface temperature data, only "corrected" data sets, which unfortunately contain the bias of the person or group that creates the algorithm to convert data into a set of numbers that is not data, but derived values. Oh and the algorithm is secret. That is no longer science.


Be thankful we are in a warm period! The dashed line is present day temp. Graph is 400,000 years.
The graph is from herehttp://www.climate4you.com/GlobalTem...to perspective