Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 9, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the snowy desert of SE Idaho
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Suggestions for a brown beefsteak tomato
Hello all,
Years ago, the first year I had a real garden, a friend and I bought heirloom tomatoes from some guy who was selling plants out of the back of a truck, who I have not seen again. Anyway, there was one that we lost the tag from that was the real standout. We only remembered that it was labeled as a black tomato. It was a fairly big beefsteak, super productive, meaty, and a reddish brown color. It was a solid color on the outside, no green shoulder, and I don't remember if there was any color variation on the inside. The color was not like any of the ’blacks' I have grown since. Definitely more of a brown –red. When sliced horizontally the seeds were in thin lines mostly around the outer area. If this sounds familiar to anyone, I would love suggestions of varieties to grow out to try to find this one again. Thank you! |
October 10, 2016 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alabama
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The color of the black varieties can vary greatly from season to season. Some years they are almost pink and other times they can go to almost black and everything in between. The large beefsteak black varieties that I am familiar with are JDs Special C Tex, Gary O' Sena, Paul Robeson, and Spudakee. Other blacks that I really like are Indian Stripe RL & PL, Margaret Curtain, Carbon, Berkley Tie Dye Pink, Big Cheef, and Black Krim.
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October 11, 2016 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the snowy desert of SE Idaho
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Thank you, I will try some of those. Good to know about the color
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October 11, 2016 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 5,931
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A brown tomato is a black that has a yellow epidermis imo. Cherokee chocolate, Tasmanian chocolate, black Krim all good examples.
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October 11, 2016 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: New Castle, Virginia
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My favorite Browns this year were: Tsindao & Bordovyi. Tsindao does have slightly green shoulders, but Bordovyi did not.
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October 13, 2016 | #6 |
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Black Krim does sound like a good one from everything I've heard about it. It sounds like an equal to Cherokee Purple in taste, and hardier in dry areas, too. There are bigger black tomatoes, though. I haven't grown it, yet. I know it's not a Beefsteak, but Japanese Black Trifele is supposed to be a great one.
You might try Black Giant, Black from Tula, Paul Robeson, Black, Amazon Chocolate, and such. I've grown all those, but only had good results with Black Giant, although the first fruits were seedless, as far as mature seeds went. Paul Robeson had great taste. Black was the earliest. Maybe those aren't all pure brown, but Paul Robeson was for me, and Amazon Chocolate is supposed to be. I'm curious about African Brown Beefsteak. Last edited by shule1; October 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM. |
October 13, 2016 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: san antonio, texas
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My favorite brown to date is Grandma Oliver chocolate. Has that wonderful it factor-at least for me!!
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October 13, 2016 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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I grew 4 varieties this year. They were ;
Cherokee Purple, Indian Stripe, Black from Tula and an unknown variety. If I had to pick one it would be BFT. Second choice the unknown variety. Third Choice IS.
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November 17, 2016 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
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Talking about color, a picture can speak A LOT
sep 3- mystry.jpg This was my "mystery" variety. I picked them early. As the fruits get more ripe, the color gets darker. Here is one on the very right side. Sep 1 - mystery 2.jpg
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November 17, 2016 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
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November 18, 2016 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NJ, zone 7
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It could have being a Cherokee Chocolate tomato.
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November 18, 2016 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: California Central Valley
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Vorlon may be another possibility.
I had my first Vorlon today. It was great! Could be that end-of-season wishing-for-summer thing, though. I got only 2 tomatoes from the plant -- planted late, in not enough sun, then picked green before I left town for a week, then sat for another week. Solid, sweet, balanced flavor. The best last real tomato sandwich of the season! |
November 19, 2016 | #13 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Santa Maria California
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November 19, 2016 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Diego-Tijuana
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Tasmanian Chocolate fits the bill.
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November 20, 2016 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
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Purple Calabash has a very distinctive flavor that would stand apart from the rest of the pack. Perhaps that was "it".
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