kale or what

tootaloo · April 23, 2009

I have tons of purple crowns coming up. The plant that was there. Was a 4 foot tall green/red leafed plant that tasted spicy. It got green bean like pods that had round black seeds. Now they are every where. Just like to know what I am eating. Thanks

garnetmoth · April 24, 2009

maybe?
When i think green beans, i think pendant (hanging down) pods. Kale, collards, and mustards hold their seeds upright (like tabasco peppers- upright at the end of the stalk)

Can you take a pic?

rxkeith · April 24, 2009

sounds like red russian kale from the description. the purple becomes more enhanced during cold weather. kale is a biennial. did you grow it 2 years ago. if you did and it wintered over, it would have flowered last year. one plant can produce a whole bunch of seeds as you have discovered. if it is kale, you can yank what you dont want, and use the young leaves in salads. they also transplant pretty well if you want to move some around.

keith

habitat_gardener · April 25, 2009

"Spicy" suggests red mustard greens. Kale is my basic leafy green, and I grow at least 5 or 6 varieties, so I think of it as a mild flavor, especially when young. Some varieties have more of a "cabbagey" flavor than others. But red mustard has a definite bite -- eventually gets large bumpy leaves.

tootaloo · April 29, 2009

Hey that was easy once I read the instructions.I would like to pot them up. But need to have an idea what vegetable it is. Thanks Susan

tootaloo · April 29, 2009

Hello I have posted a picture. Any help. Are you going to the Choptag? I may pot some up for that. I have a full ground cover.. Susan

habitat_gardener · April 29, 2009

Looks like a mustard green -- sort of blurry? The kales I've grown that have any red or purple don't have smooth leaf margins, but tend to be more divided, especially when small. Also, the ones I' ve grown tend to develop the purple-red later, especially in cooler weather, not as seedlings. There is a variety of mustard greens called Chinese Red that gets this kind of coloring. I had some once in a seed packet of winter spicy greens. It was very pretty, but had too much bite for me.

rxkeith · April 29, 2009

piccies are blurry here too.

definitely not red russian kale though. haven't grown mustard greens before so no help there.

where did momma plant come from?

keith

Polar_Lace · April 29, 2009

Actually, it looks a lot like Purple Shiso - Beefsteak Plant Perilla frutescens

Perilla frutescens

~* Robin

habitat_gardener · April 30, 2009

I googled and found a photo of red mustard seedlings
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2047/...2fbdf1cc63.jpg

mresseguie · April 30, 2009

IMHO This is Osaka Red mustard. Oh, it could be any number of mustard plants. A lot of the available mustard plants in my area are hybrids whose seeds give you yet another kind of mustard. I often let a plat go to seed only to discover a small forest of 'weeds' the next year.

April 23, 2009	#1
tootaloo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: dayton ohio Posts: 158	kale or what I have tons of purple crowns coming up. The plant that was there. Was a 4 foot tall green/red leafed plant that tasted spicy. It got green bean like pods that had round black seeds. Now they are every where. Just like to know what I am eating. Thanks

April 29, 2009	#9
Polar_Lace Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Z8b, Texas Posts: 657	Actually, it looks a lot like Purple Shiso - Beefsteak Plant Perilla frutescens Perilla frutescens ~* Robin __________________ It's not how many seeds you sow. Nor how many plants you transplant. It's about how many of them can survive your treatment of them.

April 30, 2009	#11
mresseguie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 159	IMHO This is Osaka Red mustard. Oh, it could be any number of mustard plants. A lot of the available mustard plants in my area are hybrids whose seeds give you yet another kind of mustard. I often let a plat go to seed only to discover a small forest of 'weeds' the next year. __________________ Learning to speak tomato! Got compost?

April 24, 2009	#2
garnetmoth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 492	maybe? When i think green beans, i think pendant (hanging down) pods. Kale, collards, and mustards hold their seeds upright (like tabasco peppers- upright at the end of the stalk) Can you take a pic?

April 24, 2009	#3
rxkeith Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back in da U.P. Posts: 1,848	sounds like red russian kale from the description. the purple becomes more enhanced during cold weather. kale is a biennial. did you grow it 2 years ago. if you did and it wintered over, it would have flowered last year. one plant can produce a whole bunch of seeds as you have discovered. if it is kale, you can yank what you dont want, and use the young leaves in salads. they also transplant pretty well if you want to move some around. keith

April 25, 2009	#4
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	"Spicy" suggests red mustard greens. Kale is my basic leafy green, and I grow at least 5 or 6 varieties, so I think of it as a mild flavor, especially when young. Some varieties have more of a "cabbagey" flavor than others. But red mustard has a definite bite -- eventually gets large bumpy leaves.