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dcarch, here is a short and sweet about beneficial microorganisms and how they work. Ami
http://biosa.dk/England/micro%20life...0jord%20uk.pdf
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Because of many trees around my house, my roof gutters need cleaning every year. The leaves in the gutters are well composted by teeming microorganism activities and many weeds grow in them. I am amazed that the frequently I even find earth worms in them; where are they coming from?
I read the article you linked. Thanks. I do understand the whole thing about beneficial organisms in the soil and how they help the plants. My point is, if you have good soil, then you don’t need to introduce any new or any more microbes. Insects and other microorganisms will find their way and thrive in healthy soil. They are pervasive, they are everywhere. I know this is not recommended, I do it because lack of time and lazy. I don’t even compost leaves. I just grind them up fresh and tilt them into the soil, I bury diseased tomato plants right in the same spot every year. I have no room to rotate. I also bury kitchen scrap, meat, fat, bones, etc. direct into the soil. I have been lucky these many years, including this year with the major outbreak of Late Blight in my area. Only lost a few plants and everything else is growing crazy. One of my best years even the weather has been bad. dcarch
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of weeks before planting and then just turn the leaves under without even shredding them first. They probably did not release much nutrition that first year, even used up a little nitrogen maybe, but they did provide air space in the soil and a friendly haven for earthworms. I was using fertilizers back then like 10-20-20 sidedressed down a row, so nitrogen drawdown from microorganisms digesting turned under fresh organic matter was not much of an issue. (When I more recently added a lot of partially composted oak leaves to fill a raised bed, I added alfalfa meal and flax seed meal with it, so that there was enough nitrogen for the needs of both beneficial bacteria eating the leaves and the tomato plants growing in it. Plants did fine.)
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I read the article you linked. Thanks. I do understand the whole thing about
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I agree that when you have good soil with plenty of OM, you shouldn't need to add anything other than what you take from it each year. But it can take years to get your soil to that point and in the meantime, adding the micro organisms just might be a way to get a good yield out of a less than ideal soil. And then you have container growers who start out with sterile soil. This can only increase their yield I'd think.
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The following article reminded me of this thread...
Zero waste policy: Green hero's home now a must-visit Bishwanath Ghosh, TNN 17 November 2009, 04:03am IST - *Chennai* <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topics.cms?query=Chennai> - *S Indra Kumar *<http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topics.cms?query=S%20Indra%20Kumar> - *Zero Waste* <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topics.cms?query=Zero%20Waste> CHENNAI: For S Indra Kumar, a machine operator-turned-environment activist, charity begins at home. No chemical, save the soap he uses, enters his home. And no waste is ever let out. This makes his modest dwelling in Pammal, the southern suburbs of Chennai, a "zero-waste home". He didn't have to read rocket science to turn his residence into an "green" home. He is inspired by the simple, age-old chemical process that every housewife in India is familiar with. "If you leave a bowl of milk behind for five days, how will it smell when you come back? Rotten, right? But if you put a drop of buttermilk into it before you leave, you'll find fresh curd!" beams Indra Kumar (59), whose 1986-built house has now become a pilgrimage for those wanting to do their bit for the environment ╉ be it farmers from Arakkonam or school students from Chennai. "Here, smell it," says Indra Kumar, as he opens the lid of the septic tank in his garden. One instinctively recoils, but its contents look as harmless as accumulated rain water. "Is there smell?" No. "Do you see any mosquitoes?" No. "That's because I treat sewage with a certain bacteria," he declares. The bacteria, Bacillus subtilis, neutralise the sewage to turn waste into manure for plants in his garden. Then, the earthworm takes care of the liquid waste from the kitchen. Under the drainage pipe, Kumar has buried some worms which not only digest the organic matter but also feed on mosquito eggs. And at the spot where water from the bathroom drains out, he grows cama plant, whose roots treat the soap water. Solid waste from kitchen is collected in an earthen pot and dried cowdung sprinkled on it periodically. "Any smell?" Indra Kumar asks. No. "Any fly?" No. "In 60 days this will turn into beautiful compost," he exclaims. He treats leaves from the garden similarly: collects them in drums and sprinkles dried cowdung on them till they turn into compost. "This way, you give back to nature what it gives you. People often burn dry leaves, which only causes pollution." Indra Kumar's fascination for composting is understandable because in 2004, he took voluntary retirement from Areva (formerly the English Electric Company, where he worked as a machine-man and then as a purchase supervisor) to take up vermi-composting. Today, as the president of Home Exnora, he is a sought-after man who is called by universities and citizens' group to speak on waste management. "If you control pollution at the micro-level, it doesn't require any money or the government's involvement. People only think about what they eat or what they drink. But what about the air that you breathe non-stop, right from the time you are born?" Kumar asks. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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thanks for posting that article habitat. very interesting!
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