terrible tasting f1

heirloomdaddy · May 22, 2010

Hey guys...the first successful cross I made, from which I am about to harvest seed is a black cherry x green zebra. This was done before reading on tatiana's site that someone had done this and the f1 tasted terrible. Another site I found had graded the flavor of this cross an "F". But in all reality, this by no means implies that some gems can't come from future generations, correct? I'm looking forward to creating something unique and tasty. Ideally the rich flavor and enormous productivity of the bc with the looks and zip of the gz.

another newbie question. If stripes are recessive, this means that I won't see them until the f2 generation? If I grew infinite plants, it be found in 25% of the population....? or is there more to it than that? I can't imagine that the black cherry has a stripe gene to invite to the party...

thanks for the guidance,
matt

**Lee** · May 22, 2010

We found in the dwarf project that some very good parent
tomatoes make some lousy tasting offspring. The Happy F1
comes to mind when I think of a bad tasting F1.

On the positive note, some very good tasting ones showed
up in the F2 and beyond. So, yes it is quite possible to get
a very good tasting OP from a lousy tasting F1.

Good luck with your growouts!

Lee

**nctomatoman** · May 22, 2010

When stripes were used for the Dwarf crosses, the F1s had faint striping, and once we had F2s with stripes (yes, since recessive, you need to hunt for them), the stripes become fixed following that.

heirloomdaddy · May 22, 2010

great. thanks guys. It looks like it's going to require some diligence, but should be fun.

May 22, 2010	#1
heirloomdaddy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Z10 Posts: 291	terrible tasting f1 Hey guys...the first successful cross I made, from which I am about to harvest seed is a black cherry x green zebra. This was done before reading on tatiana's site that someone had done this and the f1 tasted terrible. Another site I found had graded the flavor of this cross an "F". But in all reality, this by no means implies that some gems can't come from future generations, correct? I'm looking forward to creating something unique and tasty. Ideally the rich flavor and enormous productivity of the bc with the looks and zip of the gz. another newbie question. If stripes are recessive, this means that I won't see them until the f2 generation? If I grew infinite plants, it be found in 25% of the population....? or is there more to it than that? I can't imagine that the black cherry has a stripe gene to invite to the party... thanks for the guidance, matt Last edited by heirloomdaddy; May 22, 2010 at 02:03 PM. Reason: typo

May 22, 2010	#2
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	We found in the dwarf project that some very good parent tomatoes make some lousy tasting offspring. The Happy F1 comes to mind when I think of a bad tasting F1. On the positive note, some very good tasting ones showed up in the F2 and beyond. So, yes it is quite possible to get a very good tasting OP from a lousy tasting F1. Good luck with your growouts! Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

May 22, 2010	#3
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	When stripes were used for the Dwarf crosses, the F1s had faint striping, and once we had F2s with stripes (yes, since recessive, you need to hunt for them), the stripes become fixed following that. __________________ Craig