Yuck! Spitters 2010

[doublehelix]

I only had one variety that made me choke and spit.

My spitter for 2010 is Nyagous. Quarter sized, brick orange(not black), mealy and sour beyond edible. I feel lucky that I didn't get more than 7 or 8 from the two plants I grew.

Your turn.

Which tomatoes won't be coming back to your garden next year?

[nctomatoman]

From my paltry harvest...

not quite a spitter, but not really fond - Green Doctor's (too firm, insufficient flavor - I liked it better than Green Grape, but...)

Silvery Fir Tree - no surprise, always a spitter for me, just wanted to grow it out for seed.

A few from the Dwarf project were just awful - the worst being a white cherry tomato from the Snowy cross (one of the most awful tomatoes ever tasted!), another being one from the Porky line (not the tomato's fault inherently, more the stressed nature of the plant, methinks).

So, relatively few tomatoes meant relatively few spitters (but also relatively few winners!)

[Lee]

Zleovo and Big Sungold Select were a couple of spitters for
me this year.

Don't know why, as they both looked good.... could've been
the pots they were in.....

Lee

[piegirl]

Raad Red is a total spitter and ranked right at the bottom for Midwest Tomato Fest. Also Chocolate Cherry - not quite a spitter but pretty darn close. Both going in the garbage can tonight. piegirl

[Idahowoman]

A terrible flavorless one for me is named Vilma. It is small one that you grow in a pot from Thompson and Morgan. Maybe its so flavorless because after great heirloom tomatoes that I've tried this year now I know what tasteless is.

[doublehelix]

I forgot about one that I didn't grow but did buy at a farmers market. Sunny Goliath. Neither sweet or sour. I could just barely tell that I was eating a tomato. Sort of like the pathetic things found on fast food burgers in January.

[puzzley]

Orange Fleshed Purple Smudge. Worst tomato I ever raised by far. Insipid taste, large hard cores, mealy. Awful. I gave a plant to a friend, and when the frist ripe one showed up, his wife grabbed it, exclaiming "oh, I love orange tomatoes!" She took it into the house with some other tomatoes for salads that night. Apparently, she tasted the ofps as she was preparing the salads, because all of the orange tomato ended up in his salad...

[Suze]

Originally Posted by puzzley

Orange Fleshed Purple Smudge

Yep. You know, I was thinking I didn't really have any true spitters this year, but I'd forgotten about that one.

Very insipid and bland, a fair amount of core, mealy texture. I grew two plants, seed from two different sources for each plant (wanted to compare), and was definitely not impressed. Not to mention that the anthocyanin expression was rather poor. It was there to some degree (mostly on the shoulders), but not nearly to the degree I've seen in several pictures - not even close. Both of the plants were in a good location and received plenty of sunlight, so it wasn't that.

Makes me wonder if this variety is still segregating / isn't quite stable.

OTOH, my P20 fruits colored up rather nicely, other than a few that got completely buried under lots of foliage from other plants close by.

[fortyonenorth]

Dr. Carolyn is the tomato that perplexed me this year (with due respect to Carolyn, I won't call it a spitter). I picked it ripe, over-ripe, under-ripe - tried everything, but couldn't coax a bit of flavor from it no matter how hard I tried. It was my first time growing it, so I'll chalk it up to growing conditions.

[TZ-OH6]

A cross between Lime Green Salad and Green Gaint, F2 growouts of nearly 30 plants, 80% were horrid. Too bad they were super productive.

[remy]

Originally Posted by original

I only had one variety that made me choke and spit.

My spitter for 2010 is Nyagous. Quarter sized, brick orange(not black), mealy and sour beyond edible. I feel lucky that I didn't get more than 7 or 8 from the two plants I grew.

Your turn.

Which tomatoes won't be coming back to your garden next year?

What ever you grew was not Nyagous. Nyagous is decidedly black and it makes a lot of fruit. Maybe you got some crossed seed because I can't imagine anyone growing what you describe on purpose.
Remy

[habitat_gardener]

Originally Posted by piegirl

... Also Chocolate Cherry - not quite a spitter but pretty darn close.

That doesn't sound like the Chocolate Cherry I grew last year -- my two plants didn't produce as much as other cherries, but they were a bit sweeter than Black Cherry.

[piegirl]

Habitat - nothing sweet about them - really bland, tasteless. Heavy production here. The plant is in the garbage can along with Raad Red and Super Sweet 100. SS100 is nicely sweet but just took over the space - several spaces. piegirl

[frogwash]

Chocolate Cherry was nasty for me. The first ripes ones for the first two weeks tasted good--provided they weren't under or over-ripe. Everything else since then has had a foul taste to them, even to the point of leaving a disgusting after taste.

Over-ripe Black Krim gets close to being a spitter, but otherwise a really nice tomato.

[carolyn137]

I think it's good to remember that it's often very difficult to assess a variety as grown in any one season b/c of all the variables involved.

And I can tell you that for every variety that a person calls a spitter there is someone else who loves it.

I learned that long ago and it's one of the reasons that when I've made my general seed offers here at Tville, at least up until now, I do NOT mention taste for any variety as I experienced it. I do so with my SSE listings. but not with my free seed offers.

And I think we all know that taste is personal and perceptual and there's also a human genetic association with taste such that two persons tasting the same variety at the same time may well have different taste experiences.

Just a note about Orange Fleshed Purple Smudge. It is a mutation of the original Purple Smudge which arose via a weird event re grafting, has always been considered a novelty variety by most of those who list the original PS in the SSE YEarbooks and I'm reading the same about the orange fleshed mutant being a novelty variety as would be expected.

Both PS and the orange fleshed one are genetically stable.

When I first started growing OP varieties in the early 80's I just had to try this one and that one that were "different" and it didn't take too long for me to make an association between what I call a novelty variety and taste of the fruits as in many of the novelty ones did not have great taste.

But again, one can never make a firm statement about taste b'c someone will always disagree. One of the most beautiful fruited varieties I've ever grown is Noire des Cosebeauf and I say it tastes lousy but there are some who want the most agreesive tasting variety they can get, not the most acidic, b'c pH is not the difference, and they like it. And there are those who like the taste of Purple Calabash, another agressive tasting one that I can't stand.

And so it goes.