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Old September 29, 2011   #1
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Default How are your Fall Toms doing?

Just about all of my young plants fell prey to the imminence heat we had in July and August. I did have two JD Special T, and four Indian S. survive and are doing well.
I did get them out in containers late due to the heat, so we will see how soon cold weather comes to L.A.

Has anyone else had any problems?


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Old September 29, 2011   #2
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My survivors from spring are growing like crazy and full of blooms. The Jaune Flammes are putting on some small fruit. They seem to fruit quickly after blooming. I also planted some grown from seed fall plants and a few grown from cuttings plants which are growing well and starting to bloom. I should have four to six weeks before the first frost so I should be able to get a lot of tomatoes. Everything else is doing well and I should have a lot of veggies this fall.

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Old September 29, 2011   #3
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Ted, it sounds like you have your fall planting down to a science. This was my first fall planting from seed, and the combination of sweltering heat and pesky leaf miners, many seedlings just did not hold up during the hardening stage.
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Mine are doing OK. Tomatos were golf ball size last week, and doubled with that little rain we finally got. Heat Wave II, Solar Fire doing best. Creole and Big Beef struggled, but now gaining strength fast. My unnamed heirloom is going gangbusters and flowering like crazy, but no fruit yet.
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Old September 29, 2011   #5
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Tomatos were golf ball size last week, and doubled with that little rain we finally got.

That rain (storm) nearly destroyed my plants with the combination of wind and quarter sized hail.
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That rain (storm) nearly destroyed my plants with the combination of wind and quarter sized hail.
We got lucky on those storms. They had fairly burned themselves out by the time they got here.
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Old September 30, 2011   #7
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We got lucky on last nights storms. They built south and east of us and moved south and east, so we didn't get anything but the much cooler air behind the front. It was 100 degrees again yesterday and should stay in the low eighties for the foreseeable future after the front came through.

I don't have the fall gardening down to a science. I just stumble through it. The only real lesson I have learned is don't try to grow anything outside until the high temps are in the past. I tried to plant a few heat resistant tomatoes while it was hot. They withered and died in the heat. This cooler weather with an occasional hot day seems to work well.

Most years, I can prune most plants back when it gets hot and they don't die. This year, many of my spring plants didn't survive the extended high heat, so I had to replace them with new plants. I have a mixture of revived spring plants, grown from seed plants, and grown from cuttings plants. Many of my spring plants are now over six feet tall after being pruned back to sixteen inches tall. Two of my dwarf variety plants survived the pruning and heat and now look as good as they did in the spring.

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Old September 30, 2011   #8
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Mine look incredible, but fruit set is minimal and tiny so far because of the heat that was so intense for so long. They range from 3-4' tall, lush green, full of blooms. Just wondering if I'll have enough sun time before frost to get ripened good tomatoes. The race is on.
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Old September 30, 2011   #10
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Dewayne,

I normally have a couple of weeks of harvest in the fall before the first frost hits. I listen to the daily weather forecasts and typically pull a couple of five gallon buckets full of greenies before the frost. This year, the intense heat lasted so long, I'm not sure how much growing and blooming time I have before frost. Most years, August has a lot of 90 degree days and the tomato plants will grow and bloom in the nineties. This year the August ninety degree days were replaced with one hundred ten degree days. Nothing would grow or bloom in that heat.

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I just went out this morning and watered again. We are still in a terrible drought despite the 2/10ths of and inch we got 3 days ago. Septoria and whiteflies are still a problem but the spider mites seem to have taken a real beating from the IGR I applied a few weeks ago. I have a lot of small tomatoes and a few fruits up to medium size but none of the big ones I had last fall. It is supposed to drop into the 40s tonight and end this awful heat we have been having. Last year I didn't see 40s at night until mid November so I may not have as long as usual this year to get in fall tomatoes.
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Mine are doing great now that I seem to have solved the rat problem I had. Darn rats sure do love the Cherokee Purple tomatoes! I have 36 plants and all are bearing fruit right now, not ripe, still green but large and really nice.

Here in So. California I still have plenty of time to grow all mine out. I still have two clones that I haven't even planted out yet.
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I got the last of mine planted out into 15 gallon SmartPots yesterday. They were all started by seed mid-August, and this was the 3rd and final pot up. They are a good 3'+ high, even having been potted deep on each transplant. I have a number of small toms marble to golf ball size on some of the varieties, and an unbelievable number of blossoms on the Blondkopfchen. I have to get a pic when it's light.

Like sheysd1 I'm in So Cal so I still have time - first frost date is still 7 weeks away.

I got a little carried away on the seeding, I have more plants now than I did in March - I think I have 27 out there in 3 different spots in the yard.
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Ted - no kidding about the super heat of August and really the first half of September. I did look again yesterday and found several tomatoes had set and several were about golf ball size. The plants are so happy with this weather (as am I) and growing like crazy with scads of blooms. Looks like I may be moving my tainers into the garage on cold nights again this year to try to ripen a few more. Hopefully, so of the varieties will have good taste/texture when the cold nights come. I've usually done cherry's and black and brown boar as they take the cold better than most. This year with the heat I went to more vigorous plants like big beef and have no idea how they do when the nights get cold.
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I just went out this morning and watered again. We are still in Septoria and whiteflies are still a problem but the spider mites seem to have taken a real beating from the IGR I applied a few weeks ago.
Red, what IGR did you use and where did you obtain it? Thanks.
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