Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 30, 2006 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Name Your R&D Projects
What interesting Solanaceae or Solanum projects have you got underway or are planning this season?
I have a few… Tomatoes Grub’s Mystery Green: Green PL, Green RL and large Red RL growouts. The Dwarf Project : Sneezy F2s x 7, two PLs, developing flowers. Nepal x Tommy Toe F2 (outgrowing Pasture!) Cherokee Green supposed bicolour from Mark Korney (good strong seedlings almost ready to plant out). Brad's Black Heart (one slow seedling but I have hopes) Sungold x Jaune Flammee F2s (hatching) Tom’s Yellow Wonder (bubs doing fine with true leaves) Also, I have abandoned Kelloggs Breakfast x Akers West Virginia cross as it just wasn't tasty, large or anything. Lucky Cross Pink proved small and unproductive last year. This was an F6 selection. I will now seekout the bicolour —★for next season – that I have heard so much about. Peppers All new to me this year, with particular interest in the C.Pubescens, Fish and Joe's Long, which hasn’t sprouted yet, but which I have to grow in a competition to beat some English lads. Longest wins. Moreover, three years ago Patrina sent me some peppers seedlings in straws in the mail. The first year they just sat there. Last year two fruited and provided a source of entertainment shared in the Pepper forum hereabouts. Now the third and last one is growing, another mystery. Three-years old and unknown. Eggplants Very excited with this project. But of my eggplants the Almagro arouses my curiosity the most. See Eggplant thread. Potatoes My next mission now that we have Tom onboard. Spudz. So what projects are you planning on? |
October 30, 2006 | #2 |
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The Dwarf Project: the most interesting so far is Sleazy-A with some surprise PL dwarfs in the F2s. I also have 4 PL dwarfs among the Sneezy F2s, but they are suffering transplant shock and haven't progressed at all in the past 2 weeks
Kornesevsije X unknown, F3s - a really nice purple/black appeared unexpectedly in my Sand Hill seeds for this variety. Some more F2s, F3s and F4s from Patrina, a cross between Maritza Rose and Earl of Edgecombe. One was a nice mahogany oblate shape with excellent flavour and I'm up to the F3s for that one. Mortgage Lifter Pesta Strain X unknown heart, F2s and F3s... a large bi-colour heart showed up last year. The original cross took place in Craig's garden back in 1993. PP
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October 30, 2006 | #3 |
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Toms Yellow Wonder (4yr. and running)
Bills NMX (bi-color from Lillians Yellow) Brads Black Heart (you know) Brandywine x Nar (wasn't sure if I should list!, lol) Dwarf Project (we'll see who I get!) TomCat (F3) Ramapo F5 (I love NJ) Country Orange (Love those Oranges) TommyToe x Nepal and 2 more TBA ~ Tom
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November 1, 2006 | #4 |
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I have nothing cooking but if I hear of something interesting I may jump on board.
I'll have to see what I saved seeds from, I will be giving Mikado another shot because I like a challenge. I still plan on cutting back the number of varieties this year and going with a few more of my favorites. Brandywine Sud at least 20! Sungold Omars lebanese i need a new good orange, I liked Summer Cider, may give that a whirl. but i will save a few spots for some cross or grow-out. Maybe I'll send Patty an email and see if she has something wacky for me next spring. |
November 1, 2006 | #5 |
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Not your normal R&D project, but a project for me nonetheless:
I'd like to try growing tomatoes indoors in the winter, and I would like to be able to grow a few more varieties, not just Red Robin type. I also would like to be able to grow them as decorative houseplants. The challenge is, of course, not enough light. How do you grow tomatoes so that they would not be so leggy and sick looking? Well, you may have seen my SFT post in another thread “Fun Fir”. Here is a picture of one of my Lime Green Salads. Very compact. It’s beginning to have buds. dcarch
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November 1, 2006 | #6 |
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Grub, your Nepal X Tommy Toe are the F1.
DC, what is that LGS growing in. It looks like a jar |
November 1, 2006 | #7 |
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2006:
Ramapo F4: Collected seeds from 4 plants. Brandy Boy F3: Collected seeds from best plant. Long Island Seed Project Dwaft Mix: Planted several from a mixed pack ................... saved seeds from best examples of various colors that showed. Wisconsin 55 Gold: Collected seed mix from all 4 plants ................... selected seed from best plant of the 4. Crossed Juane Flammee X Sungold. Crossed Indian Stripe X Sungold. Crossed Brandywine X Neves Azorian Red. Saved seed from pink w/ clear skin Djena Lee .................... which also had bicolor fruit late in season. Saved seed from a red w/ yellow skin Indian Stripe plant. Found an indeterminate cherry tomato with Silvery Fir Tree type foliage. 2007: Will replant Ramapo as F5. Will replant Brandy Boy as F4. Will replant individual colors of Long Island Seed Project Dwarves. Will plant F1 of J. Flam. X Sun Gold (sent same to Grub and Tom) Will plant F1 of Brandywine X NAR (sent same to Tom) Will plant F1 of Indian Stripe X Sun Gold Will plant selected WI-55-G Will plant red Indian Stripe Will plant seed from pink/bicolor Djena Lee Will replant several SFT-type cherry tomatoes to see if it's stable. PV |
November 1, 2006 | #8 |
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The only Solinaceae project i'm deploying thru our winter is tryin to find out if seed saved from Buck's County Hybrid will grow true to the original. This is a mystery plant to me, that warrants Full investigation, before next Spring gets here. So...i got 6 specimens in good shape, potted in 2 gallon pots, currently. Gonna select the best 2, an try an give em Hilton accomodations, thru our cold season, an hopefully get a first time ever for me , tasty homegrown tomato, around the end of January. Gonna use a washin machine tub to hold one in, still ponderin what im gon plant the other one in.
It dont fit the 2 categories mentioned in yo question, Grub, but one other project is gonna be tryin a new cucumber cultivar called Spacemaster, supposed to be a short, non-running bush cuke. I like cukes in the winter(if we still call it that, here)...an i Dont like payin a dollar apiece for em...)))
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I want to find out if you use a small container, whether that would limit the size of the plant, but not the size of fruits. Clear plastic also lets me see what the roots are doing. dcarch
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November 5, 2006 | #10 |
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Grub, what type of coloring is the bicolor Cherokee Green supposed to have? I'm just curious because both years that I've grown CG they have turned out not green but more of a red/orange to green and last year a neon red/orange to green. Both from different seed sources. I don't know if you saw my postings on that previously. We were trying to figure out if maybe environment had a hand in it since a few other southern gardeners experienced similar results.
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November 5, 2006 | #11 |
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Goood question, GG.
Mark Korney kindly sent the seeds to me marked this way. Maybe there was a quesion mark in there as well? Can't recall. I am now supposing they were like what you described. My humid climate should give a result about mid-summer. They are due to be planted in the last bed any day now. Cheers, Grub. |
November 6, 2006 | #12 |
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I have nothing planned pertaining to specific plants/varieties.
Instead I have many 'experiments' planned in regards to growing methods. The one thing I will not do next year is grow anything in the ground as the ground is too labor intensive and inconsistent for me. Instead I will focus on containers, self watering containers, earthboxes and their homemade equivalents, raised beds filled with non soil matter and similar things. I may even try a cut in half 2 liter soda bottle for growing peppers and tomatos, but I have nothing planned for specific varieties of anything other than curcubits. For those I will be growing only varieties that produce little to no curcubiticin to see if the cuke beetles will be kept at bay without the use of toxins. Oh, I will also be experimenting with early and late crops in tall hot beds. Tomatos in December in zone 5 anyone? Yeah, I have high hopes.
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November 9, 2006 | #13 |
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Here's for Grub & Lori.....
Cross was from one of the yellows in Carolyn's book... Maybe this will help light a bulb for Keith regarding bi-colors... (edited) P.S. It was a good one!!! Most were over a pound, and quite productive too. Please don't offer yet, though you can redistribute the originals amongst OZ/NZ friends for their own private use. I may throw some on ebay in the Spring but I'd really like to see what it does for another few years first and get opinions. Thanks. |
November 12, 2006 | #14 |
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I am still trying to create an early tomato that is worth growing.
My cross was Stupice x Cherokee Purple. I don't have a name for the tomato. Picking a good name is almost as hard as crossing the tomatoes Here is a pic of the F4. The history of this project is located at http://www.tomatosite.com/index.php?...ul/SxC_project Also, in 2005, I started work on a Prue x Pink Sweet cross. The goal on PrueXPinkSweet is to improve upon the foliage of Prue while maintaining its excellent flavor and meatiness. Paul [/img][/url] |
November 12, 2006 | #15 |
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Interesting-looking cross, Mark.
Thanks. I'll be sure to report back. Paul, Looking good. How about: Hiawatha? A nice little Cherokee. See http://www.20000-names.com/female_na...ican_names.htm for inspiration. Just an idea |
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