fish fertilizer

Itoero · January 4, 2014

I'm looking for fish fertilizer.
The ones I find in uk-webshops have NPK: 5-1-1 or 5-3-4...while american fish fertilizer has npk: 2-4-1.
Where does this difference comes from?
Which one is the best for tomatoes and peppers?

TightenUp · January 4, 2014

check out post number 7

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=22135

TightenUp · January 4, 2014

this is what i wanted you to see so you know why the N-P-K is diff in Europe and USA

The Biogrow in the USA and the Biogrow in Europe are exactly the same. The law in the USA requires us to write on the label the direct NPK levels that the roots take up, in Europe the law requires we write the total of NPK in the bottle. The products are exactly the same every were around the world. They are all produced by hand and with love at our production facility in Groningen J
Thanks for your kind words, and greetingzz to your friends in AmericaJ

Itoero · January 5, 2014

Interesting.

Quote:

Unless you are growing in a sterile medium I would not worry about phosphorus as the mycorrhiza will make any phosphorous in the growing medium available to the plant. Ami

Is that true?

I'm going to buy Bio-Bloom and Fish-mix
I would think Bio-Bloom is good for peppers once they start making fruit.

amideutch · January 5, 2014

Order this and use to inoculate your plants on plant out. They ship internationally as we have a member from Finland that ordered it no problem.

Ami

http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/...uble-1-oz.html

Hermitian · January 5, 2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itoero

I'm looking for fish fertilizer.
The ones I find in uk-webshops have NPK: 5-1-1 or 5-3-4...while american fish fertilizer has npk: 2-4-1.
Where does this difference comes from?
Which one is the best for tomatoes and peppers?

Fish fertilizer is primarly a source of Nitrogen - typically a liquid with NPK of 5-1-1. The products you mention with NPK 5-3-4 and 2-4-1 have been fortified with other nutirents.

tqn626 · January 6, 2014

You should try to get Fish Hydrolsayte if you can. It takes much less for the same effect and is also beneficial for the microorganism in your soil. It does cost more but you use less of it. They usually have it at hydroponics stores.

Itoero · January 6, 2014

I can't find hydrolized fish...only Neptune's Harvest and that's too expensive. (live in Belgium...)

Redbaron · January 6, 2014

I recommend a fishing pole and line with a hook on the end. Fillet the fish you catch and enjoy. The bones guts and head bury about a foot deep under whatever you want to grow.

When I was a kid, we used to come home with stringers of small crappie and bluegills, they made the best eating AND the best fertilizer!

Pappi · January 6, 2014

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Originally Posted by Redbaron

I recommend a fishing pole and line with a hook on the end. Fillet the fish you catch and enjoy. The bones guts and head bury about a foot deep under whatever you want to grow.

When I was a kid, we used to come home with stringers of small crappie and bluegills, they made the best eating AND the best fertilizer!

Still a common practice with Elders and some peoples on the reservation here. It really does feed the plants wonderfully. Some even combine pulverized crawdad with the fish for a high chitin food source to the plants.

Pappi

Itoero · January 6, 2014

There is not much fish in the rivers here.

I did burry stuff(dead animalsn ) in the garden but my dog finds them...no matter how deep I burry them.

Hermitian · January 6, 2014

If you want to garden naturally, then goat manure is probably available in your area and a good choice for tomatoes.

tqn626 · January 13, 2014

How about starting a worm farm? It extremely easy to do and worm casting is one of the best if not best organic fertilizer.

Hermitian · January 13, 2014

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Originally Posted by tqn626

How about starting a worm farm? It extremely easy to do and worm casting is one of the best if not best organic fertilizer.

For worm castings, the output all depends on the input; i.e., what you feed them. A colleague of mine collects boxes of produce scraps from 2 vendors at a local farmers market.

Studies by agricultural extension personnel here in CA have shown that worm castings are best applied either (a) in a soil mix or (b) underneath a layer of mulch. When they are applied directly on the soil with no mulch cover, the plant response was less favorable than with mulch alone.

Steve Grower · March 9, 2014

Make sure you get a hydrolyzate not emulsion, processed at low temperature. Hormones, enzymes, amino acids, vitamins and protiens are harmed with high heat. Look for a high oil content. The best preservative is food grade phosphoric acid. Alternatives include, industrial phosphoric acid and sulfuric acid. Make sure the fish source is from the ocean not fresh water, Ocean fish contain more oils and trace minerals with low or no heavy metals. Ascophyllum nodosum is widely regarded as the best kelp source. The same type of cold processing is important to not denature all the benefits. Lastly, it should be filtered through a 150 mesh filter to keep it from clogging sprayers.

January 4, 2014	#1
Itoero Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Belgium Posts: 186	fish fertilizer I'm looking for fish fertilizer. The ones I find in uk-webshops have NPK: 5-1-1 or 5-3-4...while american fish fertilizer has npk: 2-4-1. Where does this difference comes from? Which one is the best for tomatoes and peppers? Last edited by Itoero; January 4, 2014 at 06:58 PM.

January 4, 2014	#2
TightenUp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 1,183	check out post number 7 http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=22135 __________________

January 4, 2014	#3
TightenUp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 1,183	this is what i wanted you to see so you know why the N-P-K is diff in Europe and USA The Biogrow in the USA and the Biogrow in Europe are exactly the same. The law in the USA requires us to write on the label the direct NPK levels that the roots take up, in Europe the law requires we write the total of NPK in the bottle. The products are exactly the same every were around the world. They are all produced by hand and with love at our production facility in Groningen J Thanks for your kind words, and greetingzz to your friends in AmericaJ __________________

January 5, 2014	#5
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Order this and use to inoculate your plants on plant out. They ship internationally as we have a member from Finland that ordered it no problem. Ami http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/...uble-1-oz.html __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

January 6, 2014	#9
Redbaron Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,488	I recommend a fishing pole and line with a hook on the end. Fillet the fish you catch and enjoy. The bones guts and head bury about a foot deep under whatever you want to grow. When I was a kid, we used to come home with stringers of small crappie and bluegills, they made the best eating AND the best fertilizer! __________________ Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture

January 6, 2014	#7
tqn626 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Gabriel, CA Posts: 145	You should try to get Fish Hydrolsayte if you can. It takes much less for the same effect and is also beneficial for the microorganism in your soil. It does cost more but you use less of it. They usually have it at hydroponics stores.

January 6, 2014	#12
Hermitian BANNED Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,112	If you want to garden naturally, then goat manure is probably available in your area and a good choice for tomatoes. __________________ Richard _<\|\|>_

January 13, 2014	#13
tqn626 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Gabriel, CA Posts: 145	How about starting a worm farm? It extremely easy to do and worm casting is one of the best if not best organic fertilizer.

March 9, 2014	#15
Steve Grower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Honeoye Falls Posts: 14	Make sure you get a hydrolyzate not emulsion, processed at low temperature. Hormones, enzymes, amino acids, vitamins and protiens are harmed with high heat. Look for a high oil content. The best preservative is food grade phosphoric acid. Alternatives include, industrial phosphoric acid and sulfuric acid. Make sure the fish source is from the ocean not fresh water, Ocean fish contain more oils and trace minerals with low or no heavy metals. Ascophyllum nodosum is widely regarded as the best kelp source. The same type of cold processing is important to not denature all the benefits. Lastly, it should be filtered through a 150 mesh filter to keep it from clogging sprayers.