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January 24, 2007 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Info for newbie
I have noticed reading these forums that many of you Tomatovillians here can just rattle off what varieties were crossed with what.
Very amazing to me 8) Can I find information somewhere about what tomato was crossed with what? |
January 24, 2007 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thomas,
Look here: http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cucurbit/w...vgclintro.html Scroll down the page to "Tomato A - I" and click on that ... Then scroll down the list of individual tomatoes to "Avalanche" for example ... "Avalanche (20-St-4, STEP 382) - Breeder: University of Missouri, Columbia. Vendor: Standard Seed and Archias, Sedalia, Missouri. Parentage: Mozark x Glamour. Characteristics: F1 hybrid, plant indeterminate, good foliage cover; fruit red, large, uniform ripening; very prolific; tolerant to radial and concentric cracking. Resistance: fusarium wilt and gray leaf spot. Adaptation: midwestern, eastern and southern United States. Amer. Veg. Grower, Dec. 1963." So in this case, Avalanche, which is a hybrid that recently went off the market, was bred by the University of Missouri and its parentage was Mozark x Glamour. Glamour still is available from several vendors, but Mozark is not, so the parentage shows up on this list of cultivars. In some cases, the parentage will not be shown ... scroll down to BHN 444 for example ... "BHN 444 - Breeder and vendor: BHN Seed. Characteristics: F1 hybrid, fresh market, first tomato spotted wilt virus resistant cultivar released in the eastern U.S., medium tall determinate vine, uniform green shouldered, globe shape and firm fruit. Resistance: verticillium wilt race 1, fusarium wilt race 1 and 2, gray leaf spot, tomato spotted wilt virus. 1997." This tomato still is on the market and the list shows only that it is an F1 hybrid and does not reveal its parentage. Well, in some cases the parentage is known and in others it is not and is kept a proprietary secret. Anyway, there is a start of an answer to your question ... Other folks here know about certain parentages because they either worked with the breeders, are the breeders, or have discussed certain F1 parentages with the breeders, etc. Enjoy Tomatoville! PV |
January 24, 2007 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thanks PV
That is a good start for me to read. I am starting to put 1+1 together here. Like Grub's Mystery Green..I take it that is grub the Tomatovillian's tomato? Earl's Faux Is Earl the Tomatovillians tomato? Is the Dr. Carolyn's , Carolyn the Tomatovillians tomato? |
January 24, 2007 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes, yes, and yes ... well in the first two cases, the tomato arose in their gardens and in the last case the tomato was named in her honor.
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January 25, 2007 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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info for newbie
Thomas'
Both Grandpa Charlie and Grandpa Willie are my PL family heirlooms brought from Poland and England in the early 1900's and named by me in their honor. SpudleafWillie, another T'villian |
January 25, 2007 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
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I remember reading about Dr. Carolyn being named in Carolyn's honor. She deserves it for sure! Very few names come up as often as hers when it comes to tomatoes.
Spudleafwillie, thanks for your contributions also. Maybe one day I will get to grow them. |
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