Has anyone used innoculants? - Page 2

creister · January 18, 2007

slip,
do you just follow directions on the box/container for potted plants, or do you have your own mixing ratio?

sliphorn · January 18, 2007

Creister, I estimate. I pre-germinate my seeds by soaking them in water from my fish tank and then they go into little 3 ounce plastic dixie cups. I put roughly an eighth of a teaspoon of Myco into each dixie cup. I was very happy with the health of my plants last year and would like to think the Myco helped.

creister · January 19, 2007

Did you order it from the internet, or buy it in a store?

sliphorn · January 19, 2007

I got it from these guys:

www.ghorganics.com/Endomycorrhizae.html

But I think if you do a Google search for it you'll find a few places that sell it for cheaper than these guys.

garnetmoth · January 21, 2007

my reading grew out of me reading about Bokashi composting, I just finished my first batch of innoculant today and wetted the compost/bedding..... it'll culture for a few days, then Ill dry it out and use it.

There are lots of interesting culture ideas and products, and some with really good science behind them. Im trying to do as little purchased inputs as I can....

I started making aerated vermicompost tea last year, and it seems to make plants happier.... I was just wondering WHY?!

amideutch · January 21, 2007

Garnetmoth and fellow Tvillians. Did a google search on Ectomycorrhizal fungi and came up with a couple interesting sites that might interest you.
http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html
http://www.tandjenterprises.com/
http://www.horticulturalalliance.com...Stimulants.asp

garnetmoth · January 21, 2007

Ami- thanks so much for finding that! Ive heard good things about Fungi Perfecti, and theyve been around for a while. I also prefer products that list the species-

I just might have to try that out!

**mdvpc** · January 21, 2007

Garnet-I have done bokashi composting in the past-Its fun to do and gives us some compost unlike traditional composting ways. I am going to do a thread on bokashi in general discussion. Please contribute.

garnetmoth · January 27, 2007

ooh! that BioVAM company ships quickly!

I got a small bag of it. Ill start a photojournal soon, ive got a sack of promix.....

Ill report back

amideutch · February 22, 2007

Here is another site I came across that I have also listed in the container forum that might be of interest. Ami
http://www.gardengrounds.com/index.php?cid=58
Also got this link from honu which is also in the growing in containers forum.
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SCM-5.pdf

honu · February 22, 2007

Here's more info on mycorrhizae from the University of Florida:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/AG116

creister · February 22, 2007

Should you put this on your plants when you pot up, or wait until I transplant into the garden? Is it okay to use mychrorhizze with rock phosphate?

amideutch · February 22, 2007

Creister, go to Tandjenterprises website. He has alot of information concerning your questions and he reccomends soft rock phosphate. I put the URL to his site on one of my posts in this thread. Ami

creister · February 23, 2007

From what I read, I could use it on the small pots and when I transplant into the garden as well. Will try that in the fall or next year, using it at every stage of seed growing. I also think I am not going to add any fertilizer to the planting hole, as the info at Tandj said any fertilizer, chemical or organic will prohibit the establishment of the mychrorrizae. It also said that they will soluablize (if that's a word) phosphorus in the soil.

amideutch · February 23, 2007

creister, I think thats correct. From what I have read If the phosphorous level is to low or to high the mycorrhizal fungus will not form a symbiotic relationship with the plant. Its this relationship that make the nutrients more available to the plant thusly increasing the vigor of the plant.Two weeks prior to planting out you can put organic fertilizer into the soil, cottonseed fertilizer I believe was mentioned as it is low in P. Then set out your plants and add the mycorrhizae in the hole around the root ball. After that don't disturb the soil around the plant as this could disturb the symbiotic relationship that has developed between the fungus and plant . When in dought test your soil. You may not have to add anything to your soil. But planting in containers is a different procedure as your growing medium may not have any nutrients and then you need to amend it. Ami

January 21, 2007	#23
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Garnet-I have done bokashi composting in the past-Its fun to do and gives us some compost unlike traditional composting ways. I am going to do a thread on bokashi in general discussion. Please contribute. __________________ Michael

January 18, 2007	#16
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	slip, do you just follow directions on the box/container for potted plants, or do you have your own mixing ratio?

January 18, 2007	#17
sliphorn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 91	Creister, I estimate. I pre-germinate my seeds by soaking them in water from my fish tank and then they go into little 3 ounce plastic dixie cups. I put roughly an eighth of a teaspoon of Myco into each dixie cup. I was very happy with the health of my plants last year and would like to think the Myco helped.

January 19, 2007	#18
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	Did you order it from the internet, or buy it in a store?

January 21, 2007	#20
garnetmoth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 492	my reading grew out of me reading about Bokashi composting, I just finished my first batch of innoculant today and wetted the compost/bedding..... it'll culture for a few days, then Ill dry it out and use it. There are lots of interesting culture ideas and products, and some with really good science behind them. Im trying to do as little purchased inputs as I can.... I started making aerated vermicompost tea last year, and it seems to make plants happier.... I was just wondering WHY?!

January 21, 2007	#21
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Garnetmoth and fellow Tvillians. Did a google search on Ectomycorrhizal fungi and came up with a couple interesting sites that might interest you. http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html http://www.tandjenterprises.com/ http://www.horticulturalalliance.com...Stimulants.asp

January 27, 2007	#24
garnetmoth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 492	ooh! that BioVAM company ships quickly! I got a small bag of it. Ill start a photojournal soon, ive got a sack of promix..... Ill report back

February 22, 2007	#25
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Here is another site I came across that I have also listed in the container forum that might be of interest. Ami http://www.gardengrounds.com/index.php?cid=58 Also got this link from honu which is also in the growing in containers forum. http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SCM-5.pdf

February 22, 2007	#26
honu Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 270	Here's more info on mycorrhizae from the University of Florida: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/AG116

February 23, 2007	#29
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	From what I read, I could use it on the small pots and when I transplant into the garden as well. Will try that in the fall or next year, using it at every stage of seed growing. I also think I am not going to add any fertilizer to the planting hole, as the info at Tandj said any fertilizer, chemical or organic will prohibit the establishment of the mychrorrizae. It also said that they will soluablize (if that's a word) phosphorus in the soil.