1 Gallon MicroMini Dwarf Culture

[BlackBear]

Hi all ,

I think this is an interesting area of culture with varieties that will produce in an acceptable way in a 1 gallon / No, 1 nursery container.

I am interested to hear about how to enhance the little wonders and any new

found tricks that make sense for this size ...inside/outside / under lights/ by window etc.


The 1 gallon varieties I am aware of with potential are :


Red Robin

Yellow Canary

Tiny Tim

Micro Tim

Rejina Red

Rejina Yellow

Hahms gelbe

Andrina

Anmore Dewdrop

Venus

Mohamed

Minibel






I have used Silvery Fir in a 1 gallon and it seems actually adaptable.

I have heard Kootenai and Lyana also can be in 1 gallon

but of course will do better in a bigger container .


Does anybody have any other varieties to add...or subtract to the

above 1 gallon culture list ???

[KarenO]

I have some micros still growing since January in 1.5 L pots. (granted they would likely have done better in a gallon pot.
I find flavour is the hindrance to growing micros. They are easy to grow,even indoors but I haven't found one That tastes very good <mainly pretty tart, even sour sometimes.

Anmore dewdrop is not a micro, or a dwarf it's a "tumbler" determinate cherry stabilized by Tatiana. It would do better in a larger basket. but a single plant would grow in a gallon pot. Small pots take a lot more babysitting as they do dry out easily.
KarenO

[Patihum]

I have Chibbiko growing this year. It's a micro dwarf and seems very happy in the one gallon container.

[Gardeneer]

I am growing all my dwarfs in 4 gallon pots.
To me, the amount of soil is not a big issue for real dwarfs, drying out too fast is.
I don't want to keep watering them. Maybe twice in a week is my norm.
Small pot, hanging baskets are pain in the you know what. hehe. In a hot , sunny they day need to be watered twice.

Gardeneer

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by KarenO

I have some micros still growing since January in 1.5 L pots. (granted they would likely have done better in a gallon pot.
I find flavour is the hindrance to growing micros. They are easy to grow,even indoors but I haven't found one That tastes very good <mainly pretty tart, even sour sometimes.

Anmore dewdrop is not a micro, or a dwarf it's a "tumbler" determinate cherry stabilized by Tatiana. It would do better in a larger basket. but a single plant would grow in a gallon pot. Small pots take a lot more babysitting as they do dry out easily.
KarenO

oh I agree ...no contest ...that flavour is not like the big ones outside in the full sun with

higher sugars etc. etc.

But if space is the issue and ability to move a few from outside to a window inside or under

lights is a pursuit...or variety in small micro space .

for sure I know Most dwarfs will never like a 1 gallon container .....I just want to find most that could and sort out a few from there .

And again I have to put in a strong like for yellow Pygmy and Venus ....

and most agree with you on the taste for Micro Tom and Tiny Tim.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

I am growing all my dwarfs in 4 gallon pots.
To me, the amount of soil is not a big issue for real dwarfs, drying out too fast is.
I don't want to keep watering them. Maybe twice in a week is my norm.
Small pot, hanging baskets are pain in the you know what. hehe. In a hot , sunny they day need to be watered twice.

Gardeneer

I agree with the trying not give yourself a bigger job than normal ...With watering

if the weather is crazy changed .and hot ......

Crazy things happen ...Like my first dark red tomato was a Pipo I noticed today ....

what ?????? June 14th ????....what ???? this is not my Normal climate .

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by Patihum

I have Chibbiko growing this year. It's a micro dwarf and seems very happy in the one gallon container.

I think I will end up trying chibbiko ...as it is a Japanese mini and I think that

2 other Japanese mini's Rejina Red and Rejina yellow taste better than

the Red Robin and yellow canary ...but they take a bit longer to develop .

I guess if you want smallness and better taste ...one will have to wait a little longer .

[Hatgirl]

Yes, another one for the Obsessed With Micro Tomatoes Club :-D My favourite micro dwarfs last year were Little Sun, Red Robin and Sweet 'n Neat Scarlet Improved.

Orangenie and Micro Tom weren't worth growing IMHO, the taste just wasn't good enough to justify the effort. Heartbreaker Vita, Sweet 'n Neat Cherry and Sweet 'n Neat Yellow were tasty, too large and sprawling for my windowsill.

I'm growing Venus and Tiny Tim this year. There a nice neat size so far, just hope they taste as good!

[NarnianGarden]

I hope to try a yellow micro next year.... as I love the concept of compact bushes that don't take much space before getting productive, I absolutely would like to test diferent colors. So far, I have loved Mohamed ... Red Robin was so-so, due to weather conditions. (larger varieties didn't seem to mind ..)

[ChrisK]

you can also check the micro-tomato breeding thread in crosstalk.

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

you can also check the micro-tomato breeding thread in crosstalk.

Oh ...Wow ! sooo Coool

much reading to keep up

Thanks for the great Tip !

[Tall Tier]

I was looking towards this method in 1 gals with the Power Pops. I went with 3 gals instead but I think 1 gals would do fine. Very tasty heavy producer

[BlackBear]

Interesting one ....looked it up and says plant is 9" tall yet 44 " wide

one gallon may be tricky with this one ...... I would do the 3 gallon on this one if me ...but maybe like Silvery Fir and others ...it may turn out to be very flexible in a one gallon.

[Tall Tier]

So true, I have one plant of it in a five gal and it sprawls all over and 12 in three gals with the small tomato cages holding all the arms up,they look like little shrubs stacked with fruit, the initial output of flowers was huge and promoted a heavy bee presence was the bonus.