(Lithium Sunset x Pink Boar) x Cherokee Lime Stripe

PaddyMc · October 5, 2014

(Lithium Sunset x Pink Boar) x Cherokee Lime Stripe
Three way fun! SO MUCH variation in the F1's from this complex cross. Just beautiful striped tomatoes. Most of them tasted pretty good. A couple were pretty bland or soft textured though with the ark-worthy level of rain theywithstood, that's no

K-1

JL 4-1

K 5-3 I'm carrying a few segregates forward, but mainly this one, because the taste was really there.

JL 4-2 Very nice GWR

FY 2-3

FY 2-5 The other one I'm carrying forward.  Very good GWR with a pink core

FY 2-2 Epic Colors, bland and soft though. Could get better at F2 or F3?

FY 2-1

FY 4-1 I'm definitly going to do a few F3's from this one, just to see what comes out

FY 2-4

FY 2-6

FY 4-1

FY 2-1

salix · October 6, 2014

Beautiful fruits, and good to hear that some are very tasty as well. Do you have the space (and energy) to grow out as many as you'd like to stabilize?

Jayc · October 6, 2014

Wow, what an amazing selection, they look so lovely. The GWR is gorgeous and I love the colour and pattern of FY 4-1, got real sparkle

PaddyMc · October 6, 2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by salix

Beautiful fruits, and good to hear that some are very tasty as well. Do you have the space (and energy) to grow out as many as you'd like to stabilize?

Pretty close, I do about 500 plants a year of segregating hybrid lines. It's not as many as I'd like, but it's enough to feel OK making selections. I'm always open to extra help though.

WhippoorwillG · October 6, 2014

Nice looking maters there. Those are some very interesting parental selections also.

Fred Hempel · October 6, 2014

The GWR one does look very good!

KarenO · October 6, 2014

very beautiful tomatoes! The green with the pink blush is very pretty. best wishes for your F3`s next season too.

KarenO

bower · October 6, 2014

Sweet!

They are so pretty.
I didn't know that a cross between an F1 and an OP was also called an "F1". I did a couple of this type of complex cross this year but ended up labelling the seeds "F2", because I know they'll be all over the map, not uniformly identical like the usual F1 hybrid.

Crosses between F2 and OP I also labelled F2.

Confusing... yes.

Good to hear you have lots of space for your growout.

PaddyMc · October 22, 2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

The GWR one does look very good!

Only possible because you so kindly shared Lithium Sunset with me years ago. Thanks!

PaddyMc · March 14, 2016

Probably time to show last year's results from this line -

FY 6-9 Good taste, low seed count

L 3-1 I call it the "Eye of Sauron". Unfortunately, taste is only a 5/10

L 1-17. Great stripes, good taste.

FY 6-16 Bicolor, mid season

L 3-2 Love the interior colors

PaddyMc · March 14, 2016

L 6-19, L 6-15, L 6-13
6-19 had very good taste

L 6-14, L 6-22, L 6-17
Great taste all around

FY 5-6, FY 5-1

L 3-1, L 3-2

L 6-18

L 15-1 and L 15-2

FY 5-4

FY 5-1 Nice, "black" tomato type taste

PaddyMc · March 14, 2016

L 6-18

L 6-14 Bicolor interior, later season

L 6-13

peppero · March 14, 2016

Wish I lived closer so I could stop by and gawk and help and maybe get to taste a few of those beauties.

Jon

PaddyMc · October 29, 2016

LPBCLS

My main problem with this line right now is culling down to just a few to carry forward, because I dig most of these. F3 seems to be a bit of a "sweet spot" in the complex cross growouts.

T17-4, T5-2, T18-3, T7-10
T 5-2 Pink/green stripes, ananas-noir type interior.
T 18-3 black, green stripe, OK+ taste.
T 17-10 Bicolor w/cool stripes, nice, bold, fruity taste - 7.5/10.

T3-2, T17-8, T6-6, T17-10
T 3-2 Bicolor, fruity, 7/10
T 17-8 Bicolor w/cool stripes, taste - 7.5/10.
T 6-6 Bicolor, didn't save any seeds.

T7-5, T7-3, T6-13, T7-7
Didn't save seeds from any of them. Good looks, but not tasty enough to save (at this point, with most of my crosses, if I can't see exceptional taste somewhere in the distance, I'm not saving them).

T 6-7, T 6-10, T 17-6, T 3-11
T 6-10 good taste
T 17-6 Nice acid gell, ok taste.

T 7-12 average taste. Didn't save seeds.

FY 7-9
Such pretty stripes. Productive, excellent taste a true 10/10. I gave it 3 stars in my notes.

FY 7-5 (2), FY 7-1
FY 7-5 ugly outside, really pretty (blood red) inside. Taste 7/10

FY 7-11 and 7-10
FY 7-11 no save.
FY 7-10 black interior, good taste.

FY7-22, 7-19, 7-15

FY 7-5
Ananas noir type interior. 7/10

FY 7-13
Best looks of the bunch, black interior, so so taste.

FY 7-14
Bigger, and a bit soft-textured, but good taste.

FY 7-2
Green/pink bicolor, lemony, nice taste.

FY 3-3, 3-4 and 3-2
FY 3-3 - pretty, piraform. Great, "bright" taste. Good candidate.
FY 3-4 No save.
FY 3-2 Sweet, 8/10

FY 3-8, 3-11, 3-12, 3-9
All pretty average.

FY 3-5
Very fruity, 7.5/10

FY-M
Rich and sweet.

PaddyMc · February 13, 2018

'17 was very exciting! The taste was very consistently good, which is great when you're breeding for taste!

[img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/36342487073_32994170c8_c.jpg[/img]

LPBCLS L 9-26 very early blk int, good+
LPBCLS FY 9-14 best taste of the AN interiors

LPBCLS L 9-6 an int t8.5

LPBCLS L 9-22 an int! ok taste, but looks
LPBCLS L 9-34 very pretty, big, an, do some for sure

LPBCLS L 9-36 t7.5 but a 9 if it was stronger, big

LPBCLS T 24-10 green int t9.5, but small

LPBCLS T 24-15 EXCELLENT taste

October 5, 2014	#1
PaddyMc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 241	(Lithium Sunset x Pink Boar) x Cherokee Lime Stripe (Lithium Sunset x Pink Boar) x Cherokee Lime Stripe Three way fun! SO MUCH variation in the F1's from this complex cross. Just beautiful striped tomatoes. Most of them tasted pretty good. A couple were pretty bland or soft textured though with the ark-worthy level of rain theywithstood, that's no K-1 JL 4-1 K 5-3 I'm carrying a few segregates forward, but mainly this one, because the taste was really there. JL 4-2 Very nice GWR FY 2-3 FY 2-5 The other one I'm carrying forward.  Very good GWR with a pink core FY 2-2 Epic Colors, bland and soft though. Could get better at F2 or F3? FY 2-1 FY 4-1 I'm definitly going to do a few F3's from this one, just to see what comes out FY 2-4 FY 2-6 FY 4-1 FY 2-1

October 6, 2014	#2
salix Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north central B.C. Posts: 2,310	Beautiful fruits, and good to hear that some are very tasty as well. Do you have the space (and energy) to grow out as many as you'd like to stabilize? __________________ "He who has a library and a garden wants for nothing." -Cicero

October 6, 2014	#5
WhippoorwillG Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Hartwell, Georgia Posts: 174	Nice looking maters there. Those are some very interesting parental selections also. __________________ Mark Whippoorwill Gardens

March 14, 2016	#11
PaddyMc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 241	L 6-19, L 6-15, L 6-13 6-19 had very good taste L 6-14, L 6-22, L 6-17 Great taste all around FY 5-6, FY 5-1 L 3-1, L 3-2 L 6-18 L 15-1 and L 15-2 FY 5-4 FY 5-1 Nice, "black" tomato type taste Last edited by PaddyMc; March 14, 2016 at 02:09 AM.

October 6, 2014	#3
Jayc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 319	Wow, what an amazing selection, they look so lovely. The GWR is gorgeous and I love the colour and pattern of FY 4-1, got real sparkle

October 6, 2014	#6
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	The GWR one does look very good!

October 6, 2014	#7
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	very beautiful tomatoes! The green with the pink blush is very pretty. best wishes for your F3`s next season too. KarenO

October 6, 2014	#8
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Sweet! They are so pretty. I didn't know that a cross between an F1 and an OP was also called an "F1". I did a couple of this type of complex cross this year but ended up labelling the seeds "F2", because I know they'll be all over the map, not uniformly identical like the usual F1 hybrid. Crosses between F2 and OP I also labelled F2. Confusing... yes. Good to hear you have lots of space for your growout.

March 14, 2016	#12
PaddyMc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 241	L 6-18 L 6-14 Bicolor interior, later season L 6-13

March 14, 2016	#13
peppero Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: selmer, tn Posts: 2,944	Wish I lived closer so I could stop by and gawk and help and maybe get to taste a few of those beauties. Jon

October 29, 2016	#14
PaddyMc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 241	LPBCLS My main problem with this line right now is culling down to just a few to carry forward, because I dig most of these. F3 seems to be a bit of a "sweet spot" in the complex cross growouts. T17-4, T5-2, T18-3, T7-10 T 5-2 Pink/green stripes, ananas-noir type interior. T 18-3 black, green stripe, OK+ taste. T 17-10 Bicolor w/cool stripes, nice, bold, fruity taste - 7.5/10. T3-2, T17-8, T6-6, T17-10 T 3-2 Bicolor, fruity, 7/10 T 17-8 Bicolor w/cool stripes, taste - 7.5/10. T 6-6 Bicolor, didn't save any seeds. T7-5, T7-3, T6-13, T7-7 Didn't save seeds from any of them. Good looks, but not tasty enough to save (at this point, with most of my crosses, if I can't see exceptional taste somewhere in the distance, I'm not saving them). T 6-7, T 6-10, T 17-6, T 3-11 T 6-10 good taste T 17-6 Nice acid gell, ok taste. T 7-12 average taste. Didn't save seeds. FY 7-9 Such pretty stripes. Productive, excellent taste a true 10/10. I gave it 3 stars in my notes. FY 7-5 (2), FY 7-1 FY 7-5 ugly outside, really pretty (blood red) inside. Taste 7/10 FY 7-11 and 7-10 FY 7-11 no save. FY 7-10 black interior, good taste. FY7-22, 7-19, 7-15 FY 7-5 Ananas noir type interior. 7/10 FY 7-13 Best looks of the bunch, black interior, so so taste. FY 7-14 Bigger, and a bit soft-textured, but good taste. FY 7-2 Green/pink bicolor, lemony, nice taste. FY 3-3, 3-4 and 3-2 FY 3-3 - pretty, piraform. Great, "bright" taste. Good candidate. FY 3-4 No save. FY 3-2 Sweet, 8/10 FY 3-8, 3-11, 3-12, 3-9 All pretty average. FY 3-5 Very fruity, 7.5/10 FY-M Rich and sweet.

February 13, 2018	#15
PaddyMc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 241	'17 was very exciting! The taste was very consistently good, which is great when you're breeding for taste! [img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/36342487073_32994170c8_c.jpg[/img] LPBCLS L 9-26 very early blk int, good+ LPBCLS FY 9-14 best taste of the AN interiors LPBCLS L 9-6 an int t8.5 LPBCLS L 9-22 an int! ok taste, but looks LPBCLS L 9-34 very pretty, big, an, do some for sure LPBCLS L 9-36 t7.5 but a 9 if it was stronger, big LPBCLS T 24-10 green int t9.5, but small LPBCLS T 24-15 EXCELLENT taste