Your one favorite semi-determinate or compact indeterminate?

sjamesNorway · January 24, 2020

I have a lean-to (attached) greenhouse, with a tall and short side. I'm looking for the best varieties for the short side, either semi-determinate or compact indeterminate (including indeterminate dwarfs). The plants should be heat tolerant, and we like fruit on the sweet side and larger than cherries. I'm interested in your absolute favorite in this category.

Labradors2 · January 24, 2020

Bulgarian Triumph stays short enough to grow in a cage for me. It produces perfect orbs of boring red, but flavor is REALLY GOOD.

Then there are the Artisans such as Blush, Taste, and maybe some of the tigers that would fit the bill with exquisite flavor.

Oh, did you say just one? Oops...….

Linda

FarmerShawn · January 24, 2020

Maglia Rosa comes to mind, but you might consider any of the Dwarf Project releases - all produce solidly good tomatoes, and some are outstanding. MY favorite overall for flavor so far is Rosella Purple. Though I also really like Numbat (GWR), and Loxton Ladd (orange).

KarenO · January 24, 2020

Hi Steve, KARMA Miracle is compact ind. you would not be dissapointed in the flavour. Cocktail to small salad size.
For a really productive determinate, I thought EM Champion was excellent.
A red Heart.
At some point I would give Maglia Rosa another grow, pick them before full ripe and your opinion may change. But it’s a cherry, so not what you are looking for at this moment I guess
KarenO

sjamesNorway · January 24, 2020

Thanks Linda and Shawn. I grew Bulgarian Triumph and Maglia Rosa in 2018. The taste wasn't there for us, which may be due to the conditions in my greenhouse and that I grow in containers. I have seeds for Rosella Purple, but have seen reports of poor fruit set, so I wonder how it would do in the heat in the greenhouse. I'll look into the others you recommend.

Steve

sjamesNorway · January 24, 2020

Hi Karen. EM-Champion is a favorite, and will take up most of my outdoor spots this year. I'm going to try it in the greenhouse, too. I've decided to grow your True Colors and Polaris this year, One more of yours wouldn't hurt

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NarnianGarden · January 24, 2020

Pink Tiger, Tasmanian Chocolate, Black Seaman..

KarenO · January 24, 2020

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Originally Posted by sjamesNorway

Hi Karen. EM-Champion is a favorite, and will take up most of my outdoor spots this year. I'm going to try it in the greenhouse, too. I've decided to grow your True Colors and Polaris this year, One more of yours wouldn't hurt

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PM me for contact info for KM seeds

I so happy you are growing mine and I should have known you already have grown EM Champion :

Karen

Labradors2 · January 24, 2020

Maybe Blush would fit the bill. The bullet-shaped fruit are bigger than cherries. I find that Blush needs some heat before it gives its best flavor so it might do very well in your greenhouse

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Linda

sjamesNorway · January 25, 2020

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Originally Posted by Labradors2

Maybe Blush would fit the bill. The bullet-shaped fruit are bigger than cherries. I find that Blush needs some heat before it gives its best flavor so it might do very well in your greenhouse

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Linda

I'm looking for something a bit larger. (Fred describes Blush as a cherry.)

Steve

clkeiper · January 25, 2020

open pollinated or hybrid?

big beef is a good semi indeterminate large slicer hybrid

does it need to be red?
grandpa gary's green was great when I grew it for the dwarf selection
look at the dwarf yellow ones too, yellow does not equate to bland and flavorless.

FarmerShawn · January 25, 2020

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Originally Posted by sjamesNorway

I'm looking for something a bit larger. (Fred describes Blush as a cherry.)

Steve

I'd maybe call Blush a three-bite cherry, although I grow it in my "salad sized" group. Also, it grows pretty big and tall, though a bit on the wispy side, in my greenhouse and garden. I do love the flavor, though. It splits less growing inside.

Fred Hempel · January 25, 2020

For us, whether or not Blush is a cherry depends on our weekly orders. If we are short on cherries, it is a cherry. If we are short on saladettes, it is a saladette!

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Originally Posted by FarmerShawn

I'd maybe call Blush a three-bite cherry, although I grow it in my "salad sized" group. Also, it grows pretty big and tall, though a bit on the wispy side, in my greenhouse and garden. I do love the flavor, though. It splits less growing inside.

Tormato · January 25, 2020

I thought and thought about this thread, and finally come up with...

...I'd take that full-sized favorite indeterminate and lop off the top, if I didn't want to experiment with training the plant to grow where I wanted it to grow.

sjamesNorway · January 25, 2020

...on the size of Blush.

Steve

January 24, 2020	#1
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	Your one favorite semi-determinate or compact indeterminate? I have a lean-to (attached) greenhouse, with a tall and short side. I'm looking for the best varieties for the short side, either semi-determinate or compact indeterminate (including indeterminate dwarfs). The plants should be heat tolerant, and we like fruit on the sweet side and larger than cherries. I'm interested in your absolute favorite in this category. Last edited by sjamesNorway; January 24, 2020 at 10:57 AM.

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FarmerShawn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,001	Maglia Rosa comes to mind, but you might consider any of the Dwarf Project releases - all produce solidly good tomatoes, and some are outstanding. MY favorite overall for flavor so far is Rosella Purple. Though I also really like Numbat (GWR), and Loxton Ladd (orange). __________________ "Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now blue-green meat, THAT'S bad for you!" -- Tommy Smothers

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KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Hi Steve, KARMA Miracle is compact ind. you would not be dissapointed in the flavour. Cocktail to small salad size. For a really productive determinate, I thought EM Champion was excellent. A red Heart. At some point I would give Maglia Rosa another grow, pick them before full ripe and your opinion may change. But it’s a cherry, so not what you are looking for at this moment I guess KarenO Last edited by KarenO; January 24, 2020 at 04:52 PM.

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clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	open pollinated or hybrid? big beef is a good semi indeterminate large slicer hybrid does it need to be red? grandpa gary's green was great when I grew it for the dwarf selection look at the dwarf yellow ones too, yellow does not equate to bland and flavorless. __________________ carolyn k

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sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	I stand corrected... ...on the size of Blush. Steve

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Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Bulgarian Triumph stays short enough to grow in a cage for me. It produces perfect orbs of boring red, but flavor is REALLY GOOD. Then there are the Artisans such as Blush, Taste, and maybe some of the tigers that would fit the bill with exquisite flavor. Oh, did you say just one? Oops...…. Linda

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NarnianGarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 2,550	Pink Tiger, Tasmanian Chocolate, Black Seaman..

January 25, 2020	#14
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	I thought and thought about this thread, and finally come up with... ...I'd take that full-sized favorite indeterminate and lop off the top, if I didn't want to experiment with training the plant to grow where I wanted it to grow.