General information and discussion about cultivating melons, cucumbers, squash, pumpkins and gourds.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Coastal Southern CA
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Hi:
I'm growing two each: Dar, Beit Alpha (BA) and Mexican Sour Gherkin (MSG). Unfortunately, I mixed them up when planting! Oops ![]() My plan was to trellis BA and MSG, and because I have limited space and BA is parthenocarpic, I was also going to keep to one vine and do lower/lean. Unsure whether MSG is parthenocarpic. Dar is bush type, can't find whether it is parthenocarpic, and I was going to try keeping it within a tomato cage. Is there a way to tell them apart in the early stages, or do I just need to wait for them to get larger? I'm asking the question because I need to prep the trellis in my limited space. Happy to take photos. Thanks! |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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If you post photos I can probably help
KarenO |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Coastal Southern CA
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Okay, thank you! I suspect 1 and 4 are MSG, 2 and 3 are BA, and 5 is Dar? I did lose one.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Seattle
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5 is definitely MSG, the plant is so much more compact than a cucumber and is also smoother
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Coastal Southern CA
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I took a closer look and the leaves are smoother than the others. That would mean I lost the second MSG, which makes sense because I gave all the seeds to family and asked them to plant some at their home.
#4's bloom opened, and it seems to have a vine-like stem, so it might be BA? I'm confused by the number of potential flowers around the nodes though, I guess I haven't looked at cucumber growth closely before. Neat. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2021
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Mystery very likely solved! #1-4 have little cucumbers on them now. #1 and #2 are spiky so most likely Dar, while #3 and #4 are smooth and therefore Beit Alpha. These match up with pictures of mature cucumbers I found on various seed websites. Thanks for the help
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#7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Coastal Southern CA
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Just closing this out: Beginning July, I had about 5 cucumbers per week per plant, the beit alpha were delicious. The Dar was just okay I guess, and the MSG were meh but a pretty plant. I had to take all of the plants out as they were hit with horrible powdery mildew and I did not want this spreading to my tomatoes given proximity. I was spraying them every 4-5 days, alternating between 3% hydrogen peroxide and neem oil with potassium carbonate. Didn't seem to help at all.
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