Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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And I think that's a good example of something that would be justified in a moral/ethical perspective in most peoples' minds, mine included, but the law never has a 'well they deserved it' perspective. You are always supposed to come to the court for relief instead of taking matters into your own hands. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
Posts: 2,723
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Interesting, but if everything I said is true (and verifiable), why should I not state as much.
Isn't that what legitimizes Yelp reviews etc? You aren't implying that my stating what they were doing was libel, are you? |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Diego-Tijuana
Posts: 2,598
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Next time a Silicon Valley type offers his assistance, you could ask for a bot dedicated to scouring for your trademark names.
In the meantime, we'll be your bots. If we see your intellectual property being used, we'll give you a heads up. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
Posts: 2,723
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Thanks Gerardo.
I usually find these kinds of things funny, and I don't even try to correct them. What got me riled this time is that this is a huge company, and I very nicely asked them to stop using our farm to sell produce 3 years ago. What they did was really beyond the pale, in terms of dishonesty. With regard to Silicon Valley types -- They don't want to offer assistance, they want to buy small hobby farms and ★★★★ away their money, all the while undercutting prices on boutique produce. Last edited by Fred Hempel; February 20, 2018 at 02:04 PM. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Detroit
Posts: 688
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It would be wise to periodically check that company's website to see if they start using your farm's name again. If they did it twice before, they're likely to do it a third time.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,794
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Truly shameless.
![]() And then again, unless they can be proven to have damaged you in a way that is quantifiable ($$), you would probably never take them to court at great expense for nothing. ![]() So maybe Facebook shaming is indeed the best way. ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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Good question. Truth is a defense, which most people know, but the problem is that it is an affirmative defense. That means when you make that claim, the burden of proof shifts to you, That tiny detail makes all the difference, as it puts you, the defendant, in the position of having to prove your innocence, which is usually virtually impossible, and almost always cost-prohibitive as a legal strategy.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
Posts: 2,723
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Thanks for your perspective.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,460
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Well amidst all the negative in this, and I would be angry too, I must say, Kudos to that Chef. I hope you asked him/her where they cook so you can also give a recommendation to anyone interested in where they can find true farm to table food by a Chef who verifies the information personally. It also goes to show you that there are some out there trying to do it right, and they are worth supporting.
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#25 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
Posts: 38,539
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Send them a bill for the stuff they claim to have used from your farm.
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#26 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Alliance Nebraska
Posts: 169
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This Chef that showed up...did you tell him to go tell the other chefs what happened here today?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Downingtown, PA
Posts: 337
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Fred, that must be infuriating. I have been absent from this site for a couple years, but your posts have brought me across the country to the southwest tip of Oregon in the Siskiyou National Forest. I missed the mailing, and have 60 plants in the ground including your famous Orange Jazz. I have 2.5 acre plot with a semi established orchard. Thank you for all the knowledge and wit you bring to this board.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
Posts: 2,723
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This is stuff I don't sweat anymore.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 1,435
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