Question about lost varieties

raydawg · April 18, 2008

I recently was given a "Tomatoes" book from the Horticultural Society of America. The publication date is late 70's with a reprint in the early 80's. The tomatoes listed in the book are heavy in the hybrids with a few called standard. I was wondering is this another name for OP?

One of my favorite pages is in the late season section where it lists Ramapo and two types of Rutgers. Which as I understand it are both making a comeback. There are probably only six or eight yellow/orange and no blacks/purples or greens listed at all.

Also, most of the probably 100 to 200 listed tomato's I do not recognize as currently for sale. And many under the descriptions have "sold at most nurseries". Are these hybrid and standard tomato essentially extinct or renamed, or in the case of the hybrids, are the mix of parents forever lost?

dice · April 18, 2008

A lot of hybrids no longer available can be found listed
in the tomato sections of the NCSU cultivar list:

http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cucurbit/w...vgclintro.html

**carolyn137** · April 18, 2008

Ray, the link just given to you should help with info about some of the earlier hybrids but that doesn't say that they're still available.

And yes, standard would mean OP to us I would imagine, and depending on the specific varieties mentioned I think many of those would still be available in the SSE Yearbooks for SSE members, or indeed still listed at certain seed source sites, especially Sandhill Preservation.

Again, it depends on the specific varieties in question.

April 18, 2008	#1
raydawg Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 41	Question about lost varieties I recently was given a "Tomatoes" book from the Horticultural Society of America. The publication date is late 70's with a reprint in the early 80's. The tomatoes listed in the book are heavy in the hybrids with a few called standard. I was wondering is this another name for OP? One of my favorite pages is in the late season section where it lists Ramapo and two types of Rutgers. Which as I understand it are both making a comeback. There are probably only six or eight yellow/orange and no blacks/purples or greens listed at all. Also, most of the probably 100 to 200 listed tomato's I do not recognize as currently for sale. And many under the descriptions have "sold at most nurseries". Are these hybrid and standard tomato essentially extinct or renamed, or in the case of the hybrids, are the mix of parents forever lost? __________________ Ray

April 18, 2008	#2
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	A lot of hybrids no longer available can be found listed in the tomato sections of the NCSU cultivar list: http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cucurbit/w...vgclintro.html __________________ -- alias

April 18, 2008	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Ray, the link just given to you should help with info about some of the earlier hybrids but that doesn't say that they're still available. And yes, standard would mean OP to us I would imagine, and depending on the specific varieties mentioned I think many of those would still be available in the SSE Yearbooks for SSE members, or indeed still listed at certain seed source sites, especially Sandhill Preservation. Again, it depends on the specific varieties in question. __________________ Carolyn