2015/2016 MMMM questions - Page 12

Labradors2 · March 22, 2016

Habitat Gardener wrote:

"I grew Cherokee Green Grape from last year's swap in a 5-gallon pot on the sunny side of the house under the eaves. I planted late, around mid July, and it took a long time to set any fruit. In fact, I picked the first ones within the last month. They were red and round with an incredible rich intense flavor. Now, it could be that any good tomato would taste great months after the end of tomato season, but these were pretty special. I saved a few seeds, and will grow some more to see if I get the same thing this summer, grown in the ground."

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I have to ask. If it is called Cherokee Green Grape, why would it be red?

Enquiring minds and all that, plus I'd really hate to miss something that has "incredible rich intense flavour!" (I'm not a big fan of GWR's because I cannot tell when they are ripe).

Linda

Ricky Shaw · March 22, 2016

Too much ambiguity with green tomatoes, it would push me into therapy.

Labradors2 · March 22, 2016

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Originally Posted by Ricky Shaw

Too much ambiguity with green tomatoes, it would push me into therapy.

Ha ha! Ricky

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Linda

habitat_gardener · March 22, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Habitat Gardener wrote:

"I grew Cherokee Green Grape from last year's swap in a 5-gallon pot on the sunny side of the house under the eaves. I planted late, around mid July, and it took a long time to set any fruit. In fact, I picked the first ones within the last month. They were red and round with an incredible rich intense flavor. Now, it could be that any good tomato would taste great months after the end of tomato season, but these were pretty special. I saved a few seeds, and will grow some more to see if I get the same thing this summer, grown in the ground."

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I have to ask. If it is called Cherokee Green Grape, why would it be red?

Enquiring minds and all that, plus I'd really hate to miss something that has "incredible rich intense flavour!" (I'm not a big fan of GWR's because I cannot tell when they are ripe).

Linda

It was labeled Cherokee Green Grape, but it wasn't green and it wasn't shaped like a grape, so.....probably NOT. Crossed? Mislabeled? I'm also growing the seed from the swap again to see what I get.

I pick GWRs by feel, mostly. Sometimes there's a subtle color change, but more often the signal to pick is a change from rock hard to a little "give."

Labradors2 · March 22, 2016

Habitat. Sorry for being so dense! I too have had varieties from the swap that were mislabelled. Last year I grew Yellow Pear instead of a variety that I really wanted to try, but that's the fun of the swap isn't it?

I hope that your delicious red (not green, not grape) will come true for you again this year

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Thanks for the hint about telling whey the GWR's are truly ripe

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Linda

Starlight · March 22, 2016

I'm coming along with my seeds too. Doing them in batches. So far I only have one that I am having trouble germinating. Probably me.

I'm enjoying the heck out of seeing the different foliage on the seedlings that are up. I fell in love with the foliage of Crovarese. My oh my! So beautiful. Got 6 pretty seedlings going to town. : )

Tormato · April 1, 2016

Ice Cherry - I found one leftover pack from the 2014/2015 swap. Any reviews?

Labradors2 · April 1, 2016

Ice Cherry sounds really cool

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Linda

charline · April 1, 2016

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Originally Posted by Tormato

Ice Cherry - I found one leftover pack from the 2014/2015 swap. Any reviews?

thats what I got from those seeds

http://tomatolover.de.tl/Cherrytomaten-alle-Farben.htm

good flavor, slightly thick skin, not very big plant

Ricky Shaw · April 2, 2016

An excellent germination shout-out to, Cherokee Green 2014 and Dester 2015, in the 2x3 ziplocks. 10/10

Tormato · April 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by Ricky Shaw

An excellent germination shout-out to, Cherokee Green 2014 and Dester 2015, in the 2x3 ziplocks. 10/10

10/10 with just two varieties, and you only have room for about 30 plants in all?

www.tomatoville.com/showpost.php?p=535277

Ricky Shaw · April 2, 2016

Big, little, short or tall wish I had kept them all. I loved them every one. -T.G. Sheppard

imp · April 5, 2016

Okay, got seeds labeled "Yellow Clusters"- are they big, little, or ????

bower · April 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by imp

Okay, got seeds labeled "Yellow Clusters"- are they big, little, or ????

Those are big, tangerine slicers. Very smooth, meaty and juicy. Midseason DTM about the same as Indian Stripe. from Ukraine.

**carolyn137** · April 5, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Habitat Gardener wrote:

"I grew Cherokee Green Grape from last year's swap in a 5-gallon pot on the sunny side of the house under the eaves. I planted late, around mid July, and it took a long time to set any fruit. In fact, I picked the first ones within the last month. They were red and round with an incredible rich intense flavor. Now, it could be that any good tomato would taste great months after the end of tomato season, but these were pretty special. I saved a few seeds, and will grow some more to see if I get the same thing this summer, grown in the ground."

------

I have to ask. If it is called Cherokee Green Grape, why would it be red?

Enquiring minds and all that, plus I'd really hate to miss something that has "incredible rich intense flavour!" (I'm not a big fan of GWR's because I cannot tell when they are ripe).

Linda

Cherokee Green Grape was bred by Mark Korney,there is a page for it at Tania's,last offered by Remy at the Sample Seedshop in 2014 and all was well at that time.It makes sense that Remy offered them since Mark lives near Buffalo,not far from Remy and he would go to the tomato tasting that Remy or someone else used to put on,as I recall

I have been interacting with Mark here at Tville since he wanted a variety from me and asked if I ever grew out the Cherokee Green Grape seeds he sent me,said it won some kind of contest.

I told him I don't remember getting those seeds and then he told me he also sent them to a person I knew well,who is no longer a Tville member.

So somewhere between Mark breeding it,and Remy offering it,it seems that it's no longer what it should be..And if Remy offered it you know it had to be good.

He told me it was a cross he made between Cherokee Green and an unnamed bicolor cherry

That should clarify this situation.

Carolyn

March 22, 2016	#166
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Habitat Gardener wrote: "I grew Cherokee Green Grape from last year's swap in a 5-gallon pot on the sunny side of the house under the eaves. I planted late, around mid July, and it took a long time to set any fruit. In fact, I picked the first ones within the last month. They were red and round with an incredible rich intense flavor. Now, it could be that any good tomato would taste great months after the end of tomato season, but these were pretty special. I saved a few seeds, and will grow some more to see if I get the same thing this summer, grown in the ground." ------ I have to ask. If it is called Cherokee Green Grape, why would it be red? Enquiring minds and all that, plus I'd really hate to miss something that has "incredible rich intense flavour!" (I'm not a big fan of GWR's because I cannot tell when they are ripe). Linda

March 22, 2016	#167
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	Too much ambiguity with green tomatoes, it would push me into therapy.

March 22, 2016	#170
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Habitat. Sorry for being so dense! I too have had varieties from the swap that were mislabelled. Last year I grew Yellow Pear instead of a variety that I really wanted to try, but that's the fun of the swap isn't it? I hope that your delicious red (not green, not grape) will come true for you again this year . Thanks for the hint about telling whey the GWR's are truly ripe . Linda

March 22, 2016	#171
Starlight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AL Posts: 1,993	I'm coming along with my seeds too. Doing them in batches. So far I only have one that I am having trouble germinating. Probably me. I'm enjoying the heck out of seeing the different foliage on the seedlings that are up. I fell in love with the foliage of Crovarese. My oh my! So beautiful. Got 6 pretty seedlings going to town. : )

April 1, 2016	#172
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	Ice Cherry - I found one leftover pack from the 2014/2015 swap. Any reviews?

April 1, 2016	#173
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Ice Cherry sounds really cool . Linda

April 2, 2016	#175
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	An excellent germination shout-out to, Cherokee Green 2014 and Dester 2015, in the 2x3 ziplocks. 10/10

April 2, 2016	#177
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	Big, little, short or tall wish I had kept them all. I loved them every one. -T.G. Sheppard

April 5, 2016	#178
imp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 4,832	Okay, got seeds labeled "Yellow Clusters"- are they big, little, or ????