Marijuana - Page 13

bower · March 28, 2017

In Canada afaik the black market for medical pot was about quality issues more so than price. The government gave licenses to their choice of growers. Anyone with a criminal record was automatically excluded from that possibility under the law.
While I totally agree about "keeping the profits out of the hands of criminals" it is the scary, violent cartels and gangs involved in a host of other crimes that I want to see excluded.
Afaik from reading about it, the pot industry that developed in BC was focused on pot alone, and broke only the marijuana law which IMO shouldn't have been there all these years. Yes, some of the pot trafficking is still in the hands of nastier organized crime and should be stopped. But I think there are people in BC who not only developed great skills in growing, they also got involved in breeding new strains, supplied dispensaries and compassion clubs, and made a whole range of products available to the consumer thereby really furthering the possibility of medical applications which are tailored to the user.
The "newbies" selected as producers by the government completely failed to deliver that standard of medical pot.
As we approach legalization, the people who had the skills to rise to the top in a free market (albeit illegal) economy by supplying high quality and variety of products may stand to be excluded from the new legal industry, if a similar clause is used to exclude 'anyone with a criminal record'.
And by giving the police an extra year to lay charges on whomever they decide to - not everyone will be busted that's for sure - they may be allowing corruption to creep in and dictate, which of the talented, experienced people will be excluded from a legal industry.
As a (prospective) consumer, I want to see a free market industry, which doesn't exclude growers and breeders whose skill has already been demonstrated.
As long as they are willing to go legal, pay taxes etc and observe the new regulations, I see no reason to exclude people on the basis of 'criminal record' if their only crime was pot. The rules aren't out yet, we'll see then if it follows the previous model.

pmcgrady · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Anybody is growing Tobacco ?

I am a tobacco smoker ( pipe nowadays ) and on occasions I have smoked MJ. Never felt the thrill.
I don't get any thrill out of tobacco either but as an addict ( just to nicotine )it relaxes me .

Thanks to PMC, I managed to get just 4 seedlings going.
So hopefully, one day I will smoke my own home grown tobacco.

Sorry to hear you only got 4 going. If I recall when I germinated seeds I just sprinkled the seed on top of grow mix and didn't cover it. I had a good germination rate, but then again the seeds are a couple years older. I was going to plant some this year but haven't got around to it yet. Keep us posted on how your 4 plants do.

AKmark · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Anybody is growing Tobacco ?

I am a tobacco smoker ( pipe nowadays ) and on occasions I have smoked MJ. Never felt the thrill.
I don't get any thrill out of tobacco either but as an addict ( just to nicotine )it relaxes me .

Thanks to PMC, I managed to get just 4 seedlings going.
So hopefully, one day I will smoke my own home grown tobacco.

When I was a kid we worked for Tobacco farmers. I remember almost dying in the pole barns hanging that stuff in 90 degree heat.
MJ farmers are going to be as poor as the tobacco farmers I remember. I have been approached half a dozen times to grow it in my GH's commercially since it became legal. I just laugh and told them anybody can grow that, but watch them flop with heirloom tomatoes. LOL

dmforcier · March 29, 2017

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Originally Posted by AKmark

MJ farmers are going to be as poor as the tobacco farmers I remember.

Poor, perhaps. But happy.

Hellmanns · March 28, 2017

I don't grow any now, but I made a living growing tobacco in the past. A lot of farms were paid for with it back in the 70's.
Here's a cutting contest in Garrard County. That field of Burley is probably worth 60-70 thousand dollars.
https://youtu.be/uGxJvy1KpH0

wildcat62 · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Hellmanns

I don't grow any now, but I made a living growing tobacco in the past. A lot of farms were paid for with it back in the 70's.
Here's a cutting contest in Garrard County. That field of Burley is probably worth 60-70 thousand dollars.
https://youtu.be/uGxJvy1KpH0

I can relate. My brother & I at one time raised over 60,000 pounds.

Lots of work to do that year and that's before the days of large scale migrant workers helping.

Worth1 · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by wildcat62

I can relate. My brother & I at one time raised over 60,000 pounds.

Lots of work to do that year and that's before the days of large scale migrant workers helping.

If a person saw the name of this thread and clicked on it and saw your post what do you think they would think without looking it the quote?

Just saying.

Worth

wildcat62 · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Worth1

If a person saw the name of this thread and clicked on it and saw your post what do you think they would think without looking it the quote?

Just saying.

Worth

ROFL Good one Worth, but wrong crop.

Jonnyhat · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by wildcat62

ROFL Good one Worth, but wrong crop.

there are 2 types of marijuana growers... the ones who use forklifts and the ones who don't

Hellmanns · March 28, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcat62

I can relate. My brother & I at one time raised over 60,000 pounds.

Lots of work to do that year and that's before the days of large scale migrant workers helping.

That's a lot of hours in the stripping room!

Worth1 · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Hellmanns

That's a lot of hours in the stripping room!

Okay now that made it even worse.

Hellmanns · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by Worth1

Okay now that made it even worse.

It is our state's #1 cash crop, tobacco is #2.

http://norml.org/legal/item/kentucky-top-10-cash-crops

wildcat62 · March 29, 2017

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Originally Posted by Hellmanns

That's a lot of hours in the stripping room!

Yes it was. We were a family operation with maybe 2 more dependable hands that year & only used them when we absolutely had to in an effort to keep labor cost down. We did hire a large crew to help us get it in the barns. We literally had work to do seven days a week that year. That was the only year we raised that much before realizing it was too much for the 2 of us. I was still in high school & my brother was a newlywed. Dad had passed away and that was our only income. I look back with fond memories but know there sure was a lot of hard work involved. Tobacco farming is a thing of the past around here now. Only a few fields where it used to be everywhere. Good for me at the time though. It taught me a work ethic.

Sorry, not trying to highjack this thread....

seaeagle · March 28, 2017

I haven't read this thread from the beginning so I'm not sure what has been said, but I'm still not convinced long term use of marijuana is good for you.Putting smoke in your lungs I know is bad. It alters your brain in some way so that may not be a good long term thing either.

But in medical terms if it helps go for it.People die from prescription drug overdoses every day and I've never heard of someone dying because of overdosing on marijuana.

dmforcier · March 28, 2017

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Originally Posted by seaeagle

I haven't read this thread from the beginning so I'm not sure what has been said,

Oh, you should. There's some pretty funny bits in here.

Also some confessions.

What's the statute of limitations?

March 28, 2017	#1
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	In Canada afaik the black market for medical pot was about quality issues more so than price. The government gave licenses to their choice of growers. Anyone with a criminal record was automatically excluded from that possibility under the law. While I totally agree about "keeping the profits out of the hands of criminals" it is the scary, violent cartels and gangs involved in a host of other crimes that I want to see excluded. Afaik from reading about it, the pot industry that developed in BC was focused on pot alone, and broke only the marijuana law which IMO shouldn't have been there all these years. Yes, some of the pot trafficking is still in the hands of nastier organized crime and should be stopped. But I think there are people in BC who not only developed great skills in growing, they also got involved in breeding new strains, supplied dispensaries and compassion clubs, and made a whole range of products available to the consumer thereby really furthering the possibility of medical applications which are tailored to the user. The "newbies" selected as producers by the government completely failed to deliver that standard of medical pot. As we approach legalization, the people who had the skills to rise to the top in a free market (albeit illegal) economy by supplying high quality and variety of products may stand to be excluded from the new legal industry, if a similar clause is used to exclude 'anyone with a criminal record'. And by giving the police an extra year to lay charges on whomever they decide to - not everyone will be busted that's for sure - they may be allowing corruption to creep in and dictate, which of the talented, experienced people will be excluded from a legal industry. As a (prospective) consumer, I want to see a free market industry, which doesn't exclude growers and breeders whose skill has already been demonstrated. As long as they are willing to go legal, pay taxes etc and observe the new regulations, I see no reason to exclude people on the basis of 'criminal record' if their only crime was pot. The rules aren't out yet, we'll see then if it follows the previous model.

March 28, 2017	#5
Hellmanns Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,116	I don't grow any now, but I made a living growing tobacco in the past. A lot of farms were paid for with it back in the 70's. Here's a cutting contest in Garrard County. That field of Burley is probably worth 60-70 thousand dollars. https://youtu.be/uGxJvy1KpH0

March 28, 2017	#14
seaeagle Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: virginia Posts: 743	I haven't read this thread from the beginning so I'm not sure what has been said, but I'm still not convinced long term use of marijuana is good for you.Putting smoke in your lungs I know is bad. It alters your brain in some way so that may not be a good long term thing either. But in medical terms if it helps go for it.People die from prescription drug overdoses every day and I've never heard of someone dying because of overdosing on marijuana.