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Old July 13, 2016   #241
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Yeah, you could call it that, some of them are so deformed I have been culling them at small size. Heat is very likely part of the issue as they were planted a few weeks later than my first tomatoes. It is common for some heirloom varieties to have odd shapes/deformities in our extreme heat.
Mine have also been quite deformed, thought maybe the current fruit set might be better but so far not. Maybe the heat? I am only an hour or so from BigVanVader/Greenville SC and it has indeed been hotter than hello here. The few edible fruit I will say have been extremely good.

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Old July 13, 2016   #242
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Not sure what the cause is for the deformities on the blossom end of DB but it is a problem for me every year and this one is no exception. If it just has a belly button, that's considered a good one. I'm growing my saved seed from 2013 in a cage and Miss S's on a stake and culled all the easily visible cat-faced/deformed fruits from all the tomato plants in the garden yesterday and kept a tally. "Santa Maria PL Beefsteak" was the winner/loser? with 12! DB from 2013 came in 2nd place with 9. DB from Miss S was tied with Cherokee Carbon for 3rd place, each losing 5 fruits so far. So far, both DBs are healthy, but we haven't had much wet weather until this week. They'd better have amazing taste this year if they hope to make the 2017 list, which WILL be short!

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I have seeing difference in fruit size and the plant size as well depending where the seeds came from. No pun intended.

BTW sometimes the description was true to most but the taste was not.
To me the taste and the production was the most interesting. By production I say at least half of what the rest makes. If tomato is soo... good it has to produce at least few tomatoes.
The first time growing can be different.
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I just came in from the gardens doing an evaluation of all of the plants that I am growing this year. The Daniel Burson plants are the most productive plants by far in my gardens. They are leading all of the others in fruit set by at least 7 ahead. The problem....... all of them are deformed on the blossom end. It is not just a belly button, but severe multiple craters. I did not have a single fruit like this last year. They were all smooth and perfectly shaped. My plants are still young and the fruits are only a half of an inch to 2 inches but not a single smooth fruit out of 5 plants. I only have one other plant that has any blossom end issue and that was just one fruit. I do hope that the taste is there this year.
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I just came in from the gardens doing an evaluation of all of the plants that I am growing this year. The Daniel Burson plants are the most productive plants by far in my gardens. They are leading all of the others in fruit set by at least 7 ahead. The problem....... all of them are deformed on the blossom end. It is not just a belly button, but severe multiple craters. I did not have a single fruit like this last year. They were all smooth and perfectly shaped. My plants are still young and the fruits are only a half of an inch to 2 inches but not a single smooth fruit out of 5 plants. I only have one other plant that has any blossom end issue and that was just one fruit. I do hope that the taste is there this year.
Sorry to hear this, Patti- it's especially disappointing to be very excited about a new variety only to have it be a bust the next season. I've had that happen so many times now and just accept that results are quite variable year to year for most varieties. It seems that the couple of hybrids that I grow perform well consistently but not the others.

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Sorry to hear this, Patti- it's especially disappointing to be very excited about a new variety only to have it be a bust the next season. I've had that happen so many times now and just accept that results are quite variable year to year for most varieties. It seems that the couple of hybrids that I grow perform well consistently but not the others.

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Kath, did you have issues on the blossom end when you grew these in 2013 or was it just disease problems? What was going on with your DB's then?
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Kath, did you have issues on the blossom end when you grew these in 2013 or was it just disease problems? What was going on with your DB's then?
I've grown it every year since Carolyn offered seeds as "Indian Stripe x Daniels? cross" (2012?) and it always has blossom end buttoning and cat-facing issues as well as grey mold. So far neither of my plants has lost leaves to disease but the some of the fruits were pretty messed up...others fruits are ok, though.
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Here are pictures of tomatoes from different varieties in my garden. They were the first to set. It has to do something with the weather.
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I think Ella might have it right. Here's my two plants today. The first one was planted two weeks before the second one. Weather has really been weird this year. Lots of my larger fruited varieties are showing some catfacing. Doesn't really bother me too much because the vast majority of my fruit ends up as juice.

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We definitely had weird weather.
May 16 - night temperature dropped to 41 degrees
May 25 - 29 respectfully day time temps: 91, 92, 87, 95, 89
It may not look as hot but for the young plants it may be stressful.
Most my plants dropped flowers twice in May.
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Kath, I know in PA weather somewhat similar to NJ. You experienced the same pattern of weather most likely. Or not?
Patti, how was the weather during the first month? Anything that could have stressed your tomatoes.

Thin skin tomatoes may be more prone to irregularities.
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Ella the weather here has been rather erratic this year. Highs and lows all over the place and it still has not stopped. Two days ago I was suffering from the heat and today I was trying to stay warm. It has been a roller coaster of a year for sure.

Ted it is interesting to see the difference in fruits of your two plants. Thanks for sharing.
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HI everyone,
I'm going to take some photos today, but from what little I've seen so far, it looks like I also have the same blossom end issues on quite a few varieties. Montreal had some very fluctuating temps in May and June - from absolutely freezing, winter like conditions to hot the next day. Although it has been hot, it's also been humid.
As well, many of my plants have those fused stems. Could this be a contributing factor to the blossom end issues?
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Agree completely with those who have said some catfacing on the earliest fruits, and that's because the blossoms that were pollinated did so when temps were too cold.

As the weather warms up later fruits are usually nice and smooth,as the pictures above have shown.

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Kath, I know in PA weather somewhat similar to NJ. You experienced the same pattern of weather most likely. Or not?
Patti, how was the weather during the first month? Anything that could have stressed your tomatoes.

Thin skin tomatoes may be more prone to irregularities.
I can see NJ from my window, so yes, our weather has been very similar to what's been experienced in western central NJ. So far this year, we've missed out on a lot of rain that has made it to many parts of NJ, though; the result being that even w/out spraying, the tomato leaves are in amazingly good shape for mid-July, with the exception of the ones going down to Septoria (a few of the dwarves and MarNar & its neighbors).

To me, it seems that some varieties just do the ugly cat-facing, buttoning thing regardless of temps, all season long. There are 120 tomato plants in my garden this year that were all started and planted out at the same time (May 20th) and the majority are pink and dark beefsteaks. Most have few or no fruits with deformities. Others, that I've grown for several years running, have had problems every year even though the weather has varied from season to season. Just my limited observations, so ymmv.

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